Vince Van Patten Vs. Norman Chad

Irah · Sep 10,2004, 04:05 PM

I know Vince Van Patten may be the worst poker commentator of all time, but I want to get everyones opinion on Norman Chad from the 2004 WSOP.

garro · Sep 10,2004, 04:26 PM

Frankly I watch it for the poker not for the commentary.

WSOP commentary sucks, especially after watching the expert commentary by Howard on the Live Turing Stone event.

ice · Sep 10,2004, 09:36 PM

I think Norman Chad annoys me the most. Same ol' comments, about his 3rd marriage, or how young the kid is, gets old and tired really fast... every comment from him has to be a witty one liner

Irah · Sep 11,2004, 01:11 AM

I could not agree with you more ice. Every 2004 WSOP espisode I watch, Norman Chad enoys me a little more.

The WSOP should really invest in some quality commentators.

ice · Sep 11,2004, 09:55 AM

Imagine if they put VVP and Norman Chad together for a poker broadcast! :banghead: lol

Irah · Sep 11,2004, 09:28 PM

I cant imagine how horrible it would be!

The weak anouncing really takes away from the quality poker being played.

Phred · Sep 21,2004, 02:20 AM

Does VVP's dad have a stake in the WPT? It's the only logical reason for his continued employment. Even the guy I saw on Fox is better, and he's a complete putz!

sweetjimmi · Sep 23,2004, 10:59 AM

On a side note the Bravo series with celebrities had some terrible poker while Phil Gordon's commentary was actually interesting.

Paul3221 · Sep 23,2004, 11:29 AM

He actually takes some of the enjoyment out of it, he is so cocky and critical. It's almost as bad as Pierre McGuire announcing hockey on TSN :banghead:

sweetjimmi · Sep 23,2004, 12:55 PM

I think that his critisms were due to the fact he gave most them leasons before the shows. From what I gathered he actually spent a fair amount of time with some of them.

I do agree that he is pretty cocky though. I lost a lot of respect for Phil when he was being a dick to Moneymaker a while back at a final table. I didn't see it but did read an article about it. Can't remember all the details though.

Phred · Sep 28,2004, 01:56 AM

I must apologize to VVP. After watching the first episodes of this year's WSOP on TSN this weekend, I have to say that Chad is EXTREMELY irritating. Like an ex-wife trying to get her alimony a week in advance. Okay, maybe not THAT bad, but not good.

ol-stone-face · Sep 28,2004, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by sweetjimmi

... I lost a lot of respect for Phil when he was being a dick to Moneymaker a while back at a final table. I didn't see it but did read an article about it. Can't remember all the details though.

I saw that episode. Phil Gordon got frustrated because Moneymaker got mixed up three-way in a couple of pots that he was contesting with someone else. Nothing really bad though. Over all Gordon is quite intense but not disrespectful of the opponents. There's much worse then him.
If I recall correctly Moneymaker even said "I should of kept my nose out of it!"
I believe that was the WPT Shooting Stars Event Final Table.

sweetjimmi · Sep 28,2004, 12:57 PM

Maybe I should learn that everything you read is not always true.

On side note, Norman Chad is a Chad. It is a true toss up between the VVP and Norman for the worst. Norman there is a difference between a set and trips. Quit using them interchangably.

Damit!

LOL

Guts · Sep 29,2004, 12:13 AM

Hey guys,

Although I find those 2 commentators to be very annoying... Any of you seen that 'ultimate poker showdown' or whatever it's called, on UPN? I saw it last Saturday and the dude on there really pisses me off... He's the guy who tangoed with Men the Master in the stud tournament, that actor guy who thinks he's a good player. I can't stand him. Jenny (I think that's her name) was good tho.

Cheers,

Guts

PS. I dislike Chad more than VVP... Although some of the stuff he said about Phil H was pretty good

peteski · Oct 26,2004, 08:49 AM

I just wanted to say that I really disagree with you guys on Norman Chad. I frequently find him to be hilarious. What's so annoying about him? I don't see it.

Vince Van Patten, on the other hand, is quite terrible. I heard someone else say this, but he's basically a cheerleader. Everything that anyone does successfully is a brilliant play. He is not insightful, nor is he funny (as I find Chad to be).

Howard Lederer was pretty great on the broadcast I saw him do also.