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Old Jan 28,2005, 02:04 PM   #1
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advice please

theres about 40 people left from original 200... top 20 get paid... i had just gotten moved to this table and have zero reads

Game #303231224: Texas Hold'em No Limit (150/300) - 2005/01/28 - 19:38:16 ()
Table "Tourney 316963 - 1" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 1: MoeRocky (4700 in chips)
Seat 2: crowman (7810 in chips)
Seat 3: the_main (5417.50 in chips)
Seat 4: tucson1 (1260 in chips)
Seat 5: RLange (1955 in chips)
Seat 6: Paulmj (7400 in chips)
Seat 7: Botev1912 (15587.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Sjabben (7765 in chips)
Seat 10: j21414 (11262.50 in chips)
Sjabben: posts small blind 150
j21414: posts big blind 300
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to the_main [As Jd]
MoeRocky: folds
crowman: calls 300
the_main: raises to 900
tucson1: folds
RLange: calls 900
Paulmj: folds
Botev1912: calls 900
Sjabben: folds
j21414: folds
crowman: calls 600
----- FLOP ----- [8c Jc Tc]
crowman: checks
the_main: bets 1000
RLange: folds
Botev1912: calls 1000
crowman: folds
----- TURN ----- [8c Jc Tc][Ad]
the_main: bets 3517.50 and is all-in
Botev1912: calls 3517.50
----- RIVER ----- [8c Jc Tc Ad][6d]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
the_main: shows [As Jd] (Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks, Ten high)
Botev1912: shows [Qc 9c] (Straight Flush, Queen high)

Botev1912 collected 13085 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 13085 Main pot 13085 Rake 0
Board [8c Jc Tc Ad 6d]
Seat 1: MoeRocky folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: crowman folded on the Flop
Seat 4: tucson1 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: RLange folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Paulmj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Botev1912 showed [Qc 9c] and won (13085) with Straight Flush, Queen high
Seat 9: Sjabben (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: j21414 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

I put him on an ace high flush draw, but im guessing thats exactly what he put me on...
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Old Feb 02,2005, 08:31 AM   #2
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advice please

My comments throughout. When I do this, by the way, I don't peak ahead. I try and live in the moment of the hand.

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theres about 40 people left from original 200... top 20 get paid... i had just gotten moved to this table and have zero reads
Close to the money, but looking to build some serious chips for a run at the top three.

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Game #303231224: Texas Hold'em No Limit (150/300) - 2005/01/28 - 19:38:16 ()
Table "Tourney 316963 - 1" Seat 8 is the button.
Seat 1: MoeRocky (4700 in chips)
Seat 2: crowman (7810 in chips)
Seat 3: the_main (5417.50 in chips)
Seat 4: tucson1 (1260 in chips)
Seat 5: RLange (1955 in chips)
Seat 6: Paulmj (7400 in chips)
Seat 7: Botev1912 (15587.50 in chips)
Seat 9: Sjabben (7765 in chips)
Seat 10: j21414 (11262.50 in chips)
Sjabben: posts small blind 150
j21414: posts big blind 300
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to the_main [As Jd]
I have lots of chips relative to the blinds. I do not need to push. I might choose to, but I do not need to.

I am in early position with a troublesome hand.

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MoeRocky: folds
crowman: calls 300
the_main: raises to 900
I am worried about the limper. What hand could he limp with from early position. I like the raise to define your hand. Get re-raised and fold. Otherwise, tread carefully.

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tucson1: folds
RLange: calls 900
Paulmj: folds
Botev1912: calls 900
Sjabben: folds
j21414: folds
crowman: calls 600
Two flat callers Alarm alarm alarm. I am in a big multiway pot with a marginal hand and two people who have position on me.

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----- FLOP ----- [8c Jc Tc]
crowman: checks
the_main: bets 1000
That's a bad flop. I have top pair, but there are ALL KINDS of draws out there. Also, there is the very real possibility that I am already beat. It looks to me like I will have to showdown the best hand to win. I would be tempted ot check and see which way the wind blows, but I don't have the 1,000 bet.

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RLange: folds
Botev1912: calls 1000
crowman: folds
----- TURN ----- [8c Jc Tc][Ad]
the_main: bets 3517.50 and is all-in
Can't argue with your play here. All of the signs indicate that I have the best hand. Again, I don't think that checking is the end of the world. Will he call with his flush draw? If yes, you could choose to lower your variance and check, but can't argue with getting it in as a big favourite.

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otev1912: calls 3517.50
----- RIVER ----- [8c Jc Tc Ad][6d]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
the_main: shows [As Jd] (Two Pairs, Aces and Jacks, Ten high)
Botev1912: shows [Qc 9c] (Straight Flush, Queen high)
Oops. Dang. I was drawing dead from the flop.

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I put him on an ace high flush draw, but im guessing thats exactly what he put me on...
I don't think he cares what you've got. And, he is happy because you keep bettting.

Tough one. If he plays the hand delicately, I go broke. And, with a straight flush on the flop he can be pretty delicate. So, even if I check on the flop he checks. Then what happens if you bet the turn and get called? It will be a tough fold on the river.

Often I ask myself: "Is one of us a big dog?" In this hand, with this flop, then you could be a huge dog or a very small favourite (a club draw with one over). It's possible you are a big favourite, but given the number of callers you have I think it's one of these two. Go slow... try and win a small pot or at least survive with what you can.
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