Cash Game Hand Analysis- KQh

stpboy · Apr 01,2006, 02:43 PM

I'm playing in a 7 handed cash game.Â* A new player has just arrived and bought in for $60 at this $1/2 NLHE table.Â* I'm sitting with about $80.

I make a raise of $6 in Early position with KQh.Â* Folded around to the new player in MP who has posted the $2 and announces, "well I have to call now".Â* I'm fairly certain he isn't very strong as his call seemed more like a I dont want to lose my $2 call...
All others fold.Â*

Heads up action.

Flop 10h 9s 2h

This is a great flop for me, flush draw with a gutshot straight draw.Â* I bet $6, I will often make the same bet on the flop as I did preflop trying to make it look like a continuation bet that has completely missed.Â* My opponent goes all in for another $48.

I instacall.Â*

Perhaps I was overvaluing this hand as I do seem to have somewhat of a love affair with KQsuited.Â* I also figured that I had any K, Q, J and any heart to win the hand.Â* My opponent is generally considered a solid player and when he's betting/raising it typically means he has a hand,Â* I'd say 19/20 he does.Â*

What do you think, was this a poor call?Â* Â*

stp

SirWatts · Apr 01,2006, 03:28 PM

Getting 1.5:1 this is an instacall with only 12 outs, and you might have more, while it's very unlikely you have less.

stpboy · Apr 01,2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SirWatts

Getting 1.5:1 this is an instacall with only 12 outs, and you might have more, while it's very unlikely you have less.

Please remember to tell the weak tight member of your team this next time you see him

I don't play a lot of cash games and thought I may have called a bit to quickly here without figuring out my exact odds. I am of course, a player that mostly relies on reads and some basic odds. Thanks for the reply..

stp

specialK · Apr 01,2006, 07:35 PM

The only reason that I disagreed with this call is because you took my money...

Gord · Apr 02,2006, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by stpboy

I bet $6, I will often make the same bet on the flop as I did preflop trying to make it look like a continuation bet that has completely missed.Â*

I like this against an aggressive player who will raise you with a wide range upon sensing this "weakness". Once raised you can just get all in with your 40-50 bb stacks and I think you're ahead more often than not. However, without a read like this I don't like the small "weak" bet because if you get called and the turn bricks, you're out of position and stuck in an uncomfortable spot where you no longer want to get all-in anymore.

stpboy · Apr 03,2006, 12:17 PM

Well, I was surprised to see my opponent flip over top two pair 10d9d. I spiked an Ah on the river to take it down and then he went on to hurt my feelings and tell me I'm not nearly as good looking as I think I am....

stp

morty · Apr 03,2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by stpboy

Perhaps I was overvaluing this hand as I do seem to have somewhat of a love affair with KQsuited. I also figured that I had any K, Q, J and any heart to win the hand. My opponent is generally considered a solid player and when he's betting/raising it typically means he has a hand, I'd say 19/20 he does.

What do you think, was this a poor call?

stp

I thought that he had something like A9 or AT when he went all in, and was surprised to see 2 pair.

Also, didn't he buy in for $40?

specialK · Apr 03,2006, 03:21 PM

no it was 60 first then 40

specialK · Apr 03,2006, 03:22 PM

stp if i reraised you to $15 total do you call or shove?

stpboy · Apr 03,2006, 03:25 PM

Good question, I think sometimes I would just call and other times I would push.Â* You may be able to get me off it on the turn if I was to have just called but only on a day when I'm playing better than I was that day. Like I said after this hand, "I'm a much worse player then people give me credit for". I proved it with my 75c hand....

stp

ComaU · Apr 04,2006, 11:12 AM

Insta call sounds right. Also call quick and loud enough that he thinks he might be behind (always funny).

stpboy · Apr 04,2006, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ComaU

Insta call sounds right. Also call quick and loud enough that he thinks he might be behind (always funny).

Yeah, he was sure I had a set after I called so quickly. I think this is the reason I actually won the hand, the cards knew I was very confident and allowed me to hit my flush! WoooHoooo!

stp

Dave Scharf · Apr 17,2006, 10:23 PM

Two weeks after the intitial post I finally answer...

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I'm playing in a 7 handed cash game. A new player has just arrived and bought in for $60 at this $1/2 NLHE table. I'm sitting with about $80.

ABC play will rule the day.

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I make a raise of $6 in Early position with KQh. Folded around to the new player in MP who has posted the $2 and announces, "well I have to call now". I'm fairly certain he isn't very strong as his call seemed more like a I dont want to lose my $2 call...
All others fold.

Ugh. I have KQ against a random hand who has position on me. Not a pleasant situation, but not the end of the world.

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Flop 10h 9s 2h

This is a great flop for me, flush draw with a gutshot straight draw. I bet $6, I will often make the same bet on the flop as I did preflop trying to make it look like a continuation bet that has completely missed. My opponent goes all in for another $48.

I am offered a call of $42 into a pot of $69. I have 12 solid outs (and heart or any jack). I may have more oughts than that if the K or the Q are good. And... I may be in worse shape if he is pushing an ace high flush draw.

On balance I think this is a call. Lots of $$$ in the pot for a lot of outs.

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My opponent is generally considered a solid player and when he's betting/raising it typically means he has a hand, I'd say 19/20 he does.

This gives me a little pause. Would be make this big overbet with top pair? Instant call. Top two pair? Still a call. It's just hard to imagine any truly "solid player" making such a big overbet with a hand as weak as top pair. If, for instance, he has a set and thinks you will call with an overpair then you do not have sufficient odds to call. On balance, though, it will be hard to reliably put him on a set, I think.

ChrisWinsor · Apr 19,2006, 07:45 PM

I'd call after thinknig about it for a long time...

Question, why raise to 6 times the blind with a KQ, very very risky play...

stpboy · Apr 19,2006, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisWinsor

Question, why raise to 6 times the blind with a KQ, very very risky play...

I raised to $6, which is 3x the BB I think this is a relatively typical opening raise with this hand.

stp