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Old Feb 21,2008, 06:22 PM   #1
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<guess> fcked soooo hard!

i had literally just sat down and posted my BB. no reads. BB not so special.

PokerStars Game #15452236508: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2008/02/21 - 18:16:46 (ET)
Table 'Carpenter' 6-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: pkrfce9 ($50 in chips)
Seat 2: jackets_2001 ($41.70 in chips)
Seat 3: The Hemlock ($8 in chips)
Seat 5: johncoyne201 ($51.15 in chips)
Seat 6: ptahh ($29 in chips)
ptahh: posts small blind $0.25
pkrfce9: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pkrfce9 [Kh Ks]
jackets_2001: raises $1 to $1.50
The Hemlock: calls $1.50
johncoyne201: folds
ptahh: folds
VTBoy36 joins the table at seat #4
pkrfce9: raises $3.50 to $5
jackets_2001: calls $3.50
The Hemlock: folds
*** FLOP *** [2h Qh Qs]
pkrfce9: bets $7
jackets_2001: raises $29.70 to $36.70 and is all-in
pkrfce9: calls $29.70
*** TURN *** [2h Qh Qs] [Th]
*** RIVER *** [2h Qh Qs Th] [8h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
pkrfce9: shows [Kh Ks] (a flush, King high)
jackets_2001: shows [8c 8d] (a full house, Eights full of Queens)
jackets_2001 collected $83.15 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $85.15 | Rake $2
Board [2h Qh Qs Th 8h]
Seat 1: pkrfce9 (big blind) showed [Kh Ks] and lost with a flush, King high
Seat 2: jackets_2001 showed [8c 8d] and won ($83.15) with a full house, Eights full of Queens
Seat 3: The Hemlock folded before Flop
Seat 5: johncoyne201 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: ptahh (small blind) folded before Flop
pkrfce9 (in his mind) says "you shit eating donkey rapper"

after the hand, i may have uttered a "hee haw". his sage response "my play speaks for itself". i was wondering what exactly it was saying. perhaps "i'm a donkey. take all my money"?

the bastard left a couple of minutes later before i had a chance to get it all back with interest.
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Old Feb 21,2008, 06:26 PM   #2
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Doncha just love it!

Make it $6.75 preflop.
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Old Feb 21,2008, 06:29 PM   #3
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Why so surprised? Obviously you haven't been on The Hill lately to defend your title. Crap like that has been happening since game one...but he's in Cuba this week, so maybe it won't be so bad
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Old Feb 21,2008, 11:35 PM   #4
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He tried to buy-it then got sucked out... that sucks.
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Old Feb 22,2008, 08:23 AM   #5
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Make it $6.75 preflop.
Cosign a bigger pf bet. Though I'd like your sizing in a live game..where you'll see the reaction to the flop.

Does anyone like a flop check here with pf action what it was? Were you looking for the shove when you lead out $7 Greg? I can't shake the feeling that I'd rather be first in on a c/r OR leading out a reasonable turn than calling that all in.
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Old Feb 22,2008, 08:45 AM   #6
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Hey Greg...think I found your leak

"PokerStars Game #15452236508: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50)"
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Old Feb 22,2008, 09:19 AM   #7
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i suppose i could have gone a bit higher PF. (live, i would more likely have a read and have no issue getting 20xbb in there against the donkeys you run into. i would also expect 2 calls...)

i didn't want to chase all of them out and i figured at least one would call 5 but ya, 6.75 or so would work too. i also thought AA would have re-raised here (but without a read i would probably pay him off anyway). (note the donkey with 8.00 who calls 1.50 but folds for 5. i should have gone to 4.50 hoping for a call and a push to re-open the betting.) villain just calls and donkey folds so going to the flop, i'm pretty confident i'm ahead. i put him on some kind of mid-pair or reasonable Ace. soooooted cards are always possible but god help him if that is what he thinks is good hand in this situation.

that was a good flop for my hand. i want to build a big pot here. no reads so i'm pretty much committed to paying off AA, 22 (hee haw) or some hand with a queen and i'm going to make everyone else pay to draw out on me.

i'm not big on trying for a CR when i don't know my opponent. so i'm not willing to risk giving someone a free card here as any Ace, heart or 7-J leaves me wondering if i am still ahead with a big chunk of my stack not yet in the pot. in retrospect, i should have made a larger bet - something around 10-11 but i was a bit greedy and hoped he'd call with a weaker hand and i thought he'd likely fold to a pot-sized bet.

when he pushed, i was getting just under 2-1 and i figured i was ahead of his range so it is a relatively easy call.

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Board: 2h Qh Qs
Dead:
equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 68.956% 68.33% 00.63% 51409 473.50 { KhKs }
Hand 1: 31.044% 30.41% 00.63% 22884 473.50 { 77+, AJs+, KJs+, AJo+, KQo }

we can argue ranges i suppose. i would expect him to push any queen, possibly a strong heart draw and then there's the random hands like a mid-pair if he thinks i'm folding to any push anyway. in reality, i was something like a 90% favourite. <3 stars
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Old Feb 22,2008, 09:27 AM   #8
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Hey Greg...think I found your leak

"PokerStars Game #15452236508: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50)"
ya. somebody ship me 5k so i can move up to 1/2. i hate trying to play within my roll...
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Old Feb 22,2008, 09:27 AM   #9
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your range is effed for sure. In absence of info we should presume he's not retarded.
Edit: and presume that he puts you on 'not retarded' also in the same blackhole.


(sorry about the bad beat btw..forgot to say that in my first)

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Old Feb 22,2008, 03:17 PM   #10
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lucky river you got your money in ahead. Not much you can do but wait for one of the 69 out of 100 times that you will win this hand. Its only variance, not to worry.

Maybe you would be interested in one of my new t-shirts: "I fought variance, and variance won!"
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Old Feb 23,2008, 07:17 AM   #11
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Maybe you would be interested in one of my new t-shirts: "I fought variance, and variance won!"
i think my favourite is the "Hey Doyle, it's all luck!"
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