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Old Apr 03,2006, 05:50 PM   #1
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missing a flop

One thing I have a problem with is missing a flop with premium hands. AKs, AQs, and not knowing how to play..

a flush or straight draw is easy enough to walk away from, but out of position, even with a safe-looking flop, having trouble playing against a mid-sized bet..

any insight appreciated, thanks
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Old Apr 03,2006, 06:12 PM   #2
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Re: missing a flop

i think it's very situational, assuming you are raising preflop hands like these on low raggedy boards you wanna lead out with your continuation bet of 1/2 or 2/3 of the pot. i would say your problem here is probably checking the flop... when you get bet into like that just consider yourself having 6 outs and go from there. really you need to have more information in the OP to get more solid responses to your question.
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Old Apr 04,2006, 01:37 AM   #3
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Re: missing a flop

I'm sure you've had in your lifetime a monster hand, imagine what that is like. Bet with the confidence that you had then, imagine you have aces and bet with it. Always be the aggressor, thats my advice....

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Old Apr 04,2006, 06:08 AM   #4
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Re: missing a flop

I would say it depends on the situation. If it is heads-up and the other player bets into you, try to think about what kind of hands the other player plays and what kind of image you have.
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Old Apr 17,2006, 10:15 PM   #5
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Re: missing a flop

Hard question to answer without a lot more details as to a specific situation. I will give a couple of my rules of thumb, though:

(1) I rarely make a continuation bet when I miss and I am against three or more opponents. My experience is that the likelihood of them all folding is just too small.

(2) Bet with the best -- if I have reason to believe that my hand is the best then I bet. This, then, will depend upon what I think the usual betting pattern of my opponent(s) is.
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Re: missing a flop

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I'm sure you've had in your lifetime a monster hand, imagine what that is like. Bet with the confidence that you had then, imagine you have aces and bet with it. Always be the aggressor, thats my advice....

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I agree...

If you have a "premium hand" you bet pre-flop, so you should do a S.C.B. - Standard continuation bet.... it's good for SOOO many reasons

A: People will often fold

B: People will be (often) scared to play back, so they'll only call, and usually give you a free card (when you're in position) on the next street

C: You get more money in the pot, and you may hit on the turn.

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Old Apr 19,2006, 07:42 PM   #7
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Re: missing a flop

Always make the continuation bet if you're against 1-2 opponents, mabye not always when it's 2. If your opponent acts first and bets into you, generally fold, if you have a read on him (lots of players bluff all in with say A10 with a 445 flop) then you can call with AK high. I've only done this once so far against an aggressive player who i knew to be on two face cards.
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