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Feb 22,2010, 09:05 PM
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#1 | | Full PFC Member
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| In need of some run good
This past week has been ridiculous. Hit a terrible down swing. Can't make a hand at all, and anytime I do, I'm either one upped, or they suck out. Luckily I'm a bankroll nit and it hasn't hit too hard, but fuck, it's seriously discouraging going this long and not getting anywhere.
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 553424
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
MP1: $18.38
MP2: $15.83
CO: $7.14
BTN: $5.27
SB: $16.22 BB: $10.00
UTG: $19.43
UTG+1: $10.14 Hero (UTG+2): $10.00 Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+2 with K  K 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 5 folds, BB calls $0.20 Flop: ($0.65) T  9  8 (2 players) BB bets $0.65, Hero raises to $2.60, BB raises to $9.70 all in, Hero calls $7.10 all in Turn: ($20.05) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in) River: ($20.05) T (2 players - 2 are all in) Final Pot: $20.05
BB shows T  J  (three of a kind, Tens)
Hero shows K  K  (two pair, Kings and Tens)
BB wins $18.72
(Rake: $1.33)
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 553429
The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter Hero (BB): $15.25
UTG: $10.25
UTG+1: $13.46
UTG+2: $10.16
MP1: $11.85
MP2: $10.36
CO: $7.01 BTN: $9.60
SB: $19.15 Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with 5  2 2 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.10, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.10, SB calls $0.05, Hero checks Flop: ($0.40) 3  4  6 (4 players) SB bets $0.20, Hero raises to $0.70, UTG+2 folds, BTN calls $0.70, SB folds Turn: ($2.00) K (2 players) Hero bets $1, BTN raises to $5, Hero raises to $14.45 all in, BTN calls $3.80 all in River: ($19.60) K (2 players - 2 are all in) Final Pot: $19.60
Hero shows 5  2  (a straight, Six high)
BTN shows 5  7  (a straight, Seven high)
BTN wins $18.30
(Rake: $1.30)
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 553438
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MP2: $10.00 Hero (CO): $13.95
BTN: $4.71
SB: $12.21 BB: $11.16
UTG: $8.93
UTG+1: $6.27
UTG+2: $17.68
MP1: $8.87 Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with K  K 5 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BB raises to $1, Hero calls $0.70 Flop: ($2.05) 5  2  J (2 players) BB bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50 Turn: ($5.05) 4 (2 players) BB bets $3, Hero calls $3 River: ($11.05) 5 (2 players) BB bets $5.66 all in, Hero calls $5.66 Final Pot: $22.37
Hero mucks K  K 
BB shows A  A  (two pair, Aces and Fives)
BB wins $20.88
(Rake: $1.49)
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 553446
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BB: $11.39
UTG: $13.12
UTG+1: $4.30
UTG+2: $10.28 MP1: $8.44 Hero (MP2): $10.40
CO: $13.34
BTN: $15.09
SB: $4.05 Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is MP2 with A  A 3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, 4 folds, MP1 calls $0.80 Flop: ($2.55) J  8  K (2 players)
MP1 checks, Hero bets $1.50, MP1 raises to $7.24 all in, Hero calls $5.74 Turn: ($17.03) Q (2 players - 1 is all in) River: ($17.03) 6 (2 players - 1 is all in) Final Pot: $17.03
MP1 shows J  J  (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero shows A  A  (a pair of Aces)
MP1 wins $15.90
(Rake: $1.13)
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 553449
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SB: $7.93
BB: $4.45 UTG: $3.65 Hero (UTG+1): $11.66
UTG+2: $7.15
MP1: $33.17
MP2: $3.54
CO: $18.96
BTN: $9.90 Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with 9  9 
UTG calls $0.10, Hero raises to $0.30, 7 folds, UTG calls $0.20 Flop: ($0.75) 7  9  J (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $0.30, UTG calls $0.30 Turn: ($1.35) 3 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1, UTG calls $1 River: ($3.35) K (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $2.05, UTG calls $2.05 all in Final Pot: $7.45
UTG shows Q  T  (a straight, King high)
Hero shows 9  9  (three of a kind, Nines)
UTG wins $6.96
(Rake: $0.49)
I know these are standard beats, but this is all I've gotten for the last little while. Really wish this shit would end. Thank god for rakeback.
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Feb 22,2010, 09:19 PM
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welcome to the club!
wish we can pass around run good to each other on here, I feel exactly the same, let`s go get a drink and drown our sorrows |
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Feb 22,2010, 10:00 PM
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If only it were that simple.
Also, way ahead of ya on the drinks.
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Feb 23,2010, 06:49 PM
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If I were you, I'd take a couple days and just chill with the playing. Breakevenitis is never good. So just do some light poker reading, watch some shows, maybe even watch some of the stakes you play and just take notes (or watch a limit 1 or 2 above you and play 'spot the fish'... I did this yesterday at .5/1 and it was pretty fun). After a few days, come back fresh and just focus on playing good poker, F the past.
Here's my graph so far this year. At a glance it looks pretty awesome. But a closer look and you can see I've had several periods with 10k+ hand swings/breakevens. It sucks, but is part of the game. Some of those swings were made worse because of my play, but I think (hope) I've learned from them and improved.
Also might be a good idea to never look a graph shorter than "this month" or "this year".
BR nits 4tw. |
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Feb 23,2010, 07:04 PM
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#5 | | comma man
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Originally Posted by Gutsy If I were you, I'd take a couple days and just chill with the playing. Breakevenitis is never good. So just do some light poker reading, watch some shows, maybe even watch some of the stakes you play and just take notes (or watch a limit 1 or 2 above you and play 'spot the fish'... I did this yesterday at .5/1 and it was pretty fun). After a few days, come back fresh and just focus on playing good poker, F the past.
Here's my graph so far this year. At a glance it looks pretty awesome. But a closer look and you can see I've had several periods with 10k+ hand swings/breakevens. It sucks, but is part of the game. Some of those swings were made worse because of my play, but I think (hope) I've learned from them and improved.
Also might be a good idea to never look a graph shorter than "this month" or "this year".
BR nits 4tw.  | you're missing a line on there
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Feb 23,2010, 07:20 PM
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Also check out this player. He's been a consistent winner at .1/.25 for a disgusting # of hands (500+ thousand), but recently he's doing terribly. Obviously PTR doesn't catch every hand of every second of every day, but they are not too far off. http://www.pokertableratings.com/sta...-search/arez88
Seriously, I don't even understand how he could run this bad this long without having some serious tilt monkey on his back. His stats are so close to mine it makes me shudder to think this could be me >.<.
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Feb 23,2010, 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker you're missing a line on there | ? you mean all-in EV line?
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Feb 24,2010, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Gutsy If I were you, I'd take a couple days and just chill with the playing. Breakevenitis is never good. So just do some light poker reading, watch some shows, maybe even watch some of the stakes you play and just take notes (or watch a limit 1 or 2 above you and play 'spot the fish'... I did this yesterday at .5/1 and it was pretty fun). After a few days, come back fresh and just focus on playing good poker, F the past. | Sad thing is I've already done all this this month. Self excluded myself for a week. Spent that time watching some DC videos, going through some books, and re-evaluating a lot of hands. Came back after the week refreshed and everything started out good, started digging myself out of this hole and then it all went to shit again last week. Luckily I have a lot going on this week which isn't really leaving much time for poker and the time that I would spend playing I plan on doing a lot of reviewing.
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Feb 24,2010, 03:34 AM
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^lol doh. Well the bright side is, once you get over this hump, it's over  . Harder the struggle, the bigger the improvement. I think I read on here (or maybe it was something leatherass said in an interview), that everyone has 1 60k breakeven skid in their life (assuming they're winning players at the limit they're playing of course).
One thing you could do is find someone to do a 'sweat'. Where they watch you play or you send them a video of a session you played. Then they can give you some tips. This is something I'm considering doing because I think there are 2-3 huge holes in my game that I can't see. Until I figure out what they are, I don't think I'll be ready to move up.
Last edited by Gutsy; Feb 24,2010 at 03:37 AM.
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Feb 24,2010, 03:54 AM
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I can only hope. I've actually been thinking about recording a video for a while now and getting someone to review it. Will probably start recording sessions when I get back into it. Done it in the past and find it's a lot better than sifting through hand histories. Also find it easier to spot leaks watching the videos. One of my biggest problems right now though is rush poker. There should really be a way to make the option to play rush disappear.
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Feb 24,2010, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by derrickone I can only hope. I've actually been thinking about recording a video for a while now and getting someone to review it. Will probably start recording sessions when I get back into it. Done it in the past and find it's a lot better than sifting through hand histories. Also find it easier to spot leaks watching the videos. One of my biggest problems right now though is rush poker. There should really be a way to make the option to play rush disappear. |
haha, see my new thread in stt strategy, I am thinking of doing videos as well!
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Mar 04,2010, 02:35 AM
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It continues.
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 568712
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UTG+2: $10.49
MP1: $10.93
MP2: $10.15
CO: $3.25 BTN: $9.42
SB: $10.70
BB: $9.83
UTG: $18.41 Hero (UTG+1): $9.69 Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with A  A 1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, UTG+2 calls $0.30, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds Flop: ($1.05) 8  9  6 (3 players) Hero bets $0.60, UTG+2 folds, BTN raises to $1.80, Hero raises to $9.39 all in, BTN calls $7.32 all in Turn: ($19.29) 6 (2 players - 2 are all in) River: ($19.29) 7 (2 players - 2 are all in) Final Pot: $19.29
BTN shows T  T  (a straight, Ten high)
Hero shows A  A  (two pair, Aces and Sixes)
BTN wins $18.01
(Rake: $1.28)
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 568714
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BB: $5.53
UTG: $9.34
UTG+1: $20.66 Hero (UTG+2): $9.85
MP1: $4.02
MP2: $12.45
CO: $7.75 BTN: $11.44
SB: $9.40 Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+2 with J  A 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, MP1 calls $0.30, 2 folds, BTN calls $0.30, 2 folds Flop: ($1.05) J  8  J (3 players) Hero bets $0.30, MP1 folds, BTN calls $0.30 Turn: ($1.65) 7 (2 players) Hero bets $0.60, BTN raises to $2, Hero raises to $9.25 all in, BTN calls $7.25 River: ($20.15) 5 (2 players - 1 is all in) Final Pot: $20.15
Hero shows J  A  (three of a kind, Jacks)
BTN shows T  Q  (a flush, Queen high)
BTN wins $18.81
(Rake: $1.34)
A little while later, this hand comes along.
Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - http://www.thehandconverter.com/hands/568850
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BTN: $9.02
SB: $20.26
BB: $10.00
UTG: $17.54
Hero (UTG+1): $9.60
UTG+2: $6.01
MP1: $9.60
MP2: $20.26
CO: $10.80
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with Ah Qc
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.30, CO calls $0.30, 3 folds
Flop: ($1.05) 6d 9c 2s (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks
Turn: ($1.05) Qd (3 players)
Hero bets $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, CO raises to $1.40, Hero calls $0.90, MP2 calls $0.90
River: ($5.25) 9d (3 players)
Hero checks, MP2 checks, CO checks
Final Pot: $5.25
Hero shows Ah Qc (two pair, Queens and Nines)
MP2 shows Ad Qs (two pair, Queens and Nines)
CO shows Qh Ac (two pair, Queens and Nines)
Hero wins $1.64
MP2 wins $1.63
CO wins $1.63
(Rake: $0.35)
What are the chances?
Last edited by derrickone; Mar 04,2010 at 05:52 AM.
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Mar 04,2010, 02:46 AM
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#13 | | comma man
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Play some live poker.
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Mar 04,2010, 05:48 AM
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Unfortunately I'm currently unemployed so live poker has taken a back seat to online poker for now. Believe me, I would much rather play live.
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Mar 04,2010, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by derrickone
What are the chances?  | The other day I saw a HH that was 3 way all in. AA vs KK vs KK. AA lost. I'd say that's pretty sick. These ones imo aren't that terrible. You get the money in as a big fav, that's all you can do.
You just gotta keep plugging away and play good poker. You still haven't played that many hands, and you are up right? One day, when you move up and are no longer playing this limit, you'll wish more people played like them  .
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