A NL hand for review (30 seconds to act)

stpboy · Dec 14,2005, 11:40 PM

I'm playing a $1/2 NL live cash game the other day at Kelly's Place (Shameless plug for West Side Poker Club) and the following hand occured. I'd like to know your thoughts.
Anyway, the hand in question.

4 players limp to the flop. I'll list the 3 that matter.

Player A 7d9d ($140)
Player B AJo ($60)
Player C A9o ($57)

Flop Ac 8d 6d

Player B bets $8
Player C raises to $16
Player A is last to act and calls $16
Player B re-raises all in for another $44
Player C calls the all in
Player A

?

Is this an automatic call from Player A for most of you? Play it as if you were at the table, figuring everything out in your head and having a limited amount of time. Give me your honest answer within 30 seconds....

stp

BBC Z · Dec 14,2005, 11:46 PM

easy call

zero · Dec 15,2005, 12:45 AM

30 second limit? I call in less than 1.

SirWatts · Dec 15,2005, 12:55 AM

Beats everyone into the pot. I think I'd prefer to come over the top instead of just calling the first $16 but this worked out better.

specialK · Dec 15,2005, 04:47 AM

yep this is a no-brainer in my mind... when was this hand

i don't remember...

pkrfce9 · Dec 15,2005, 06:09 AM

Yep. Easy call. I'd only be afraid of someone else with spades but not really against 2 players. You are at almost 50% to win the hand and only have to put up a third of the cash. Plus it's a cash game!

beanie42 · Dec 15,2005, 08:22 AM

In a heart-beat. I've already hit one straight-flush at Kelly's

pkrfce9 · Dec 15,2005, 08:28 AM

Who is player C? What the hell was he thinking? When is he playing again

Next time, don't tell us their hands. Just give us a range you would expect them to be playing.

Big E · Dec 15,2005, 08:48 AM

I'm tight, I hate losing money, I call in a second!

beanie42 · Dec 15,2005, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pkrfce9

Who is player C? What the hell was he thinking? When is he playing again

Be nice Greg - lots of people over-play A9, some quite profitably

. (and no, I wasn't player C - this time!)

Redington · Dec 15,2005, 09:11 AM

Easy Call...

I was at the table for the Big suck out with AJo....

I think it was a very WEAK play for the str/flush draw not to push all in on the flop after the first raise and reraise from the second player.

The situation outside the cards were;

1; rock
2; new and aggressive (had bet the first three or four hands, layed down a huge pair and lost in showdown twice)
3; over aggressive

I think the best play here was for the rock to push, so that the good agressive has to call two reraises. He would have trapped the over aggressive player, and made the stronger player fold.

stpboy · Dec 15,2005, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by pkrfce9

Who is player C? What the hell was he thinking? When is he playing again

Next time, don't tell us their hands. Just give us a range you would expect them to be playing.

I had thought about not putting the suits in the OP but wanted to really post what Player A was likely thinking. It would have been easy for him to put both B and C on a medium-big Ace, possibly even two pair. I was surprised at his call here, I suppose if it was a tournament things might have been different. Tyson said after the hand that I (AJo) was the underdog even though I was ahead. I wasn't sure about that until I figured out that he had 16 outs x2 (PlayerC had a diamond). Anyway the river came duece duece not diamonds and I took down the pot.

Player C btw, I was surprised at his hand also.....he usually plays TWO THREE!

stp

BBC Z · Dec 15,2005, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by stpboy

Quote:

Originally Posted by pkrfce9

Who is player C? What the hell was he thinking? When is he playing again

Next time, don't tell us their hands. Just give us a range you would expect them to be playing.

I had thought about not putting the suits in the OP but wanted to really post what Player A was likely thinking. It would have been easy for him to put both B and C on a medium-big Ace, possibly even two pair. I was surprised at his call here, I suppose if it was a tournament things might have been different. Tyson said after the hand that I (AJo) was the underdog even though I was ahead. I wasn't sure about that until I figured out that he had 16 outs x2 (PlayerC had a diamond). Anyway the river came duece duece not diamonds and I took down the pot.

Player C btw, I was surprised at his hand also.....he usually plays TWO THREE!

stp

Dude, what has happened to you? I thought you knew all about outs and odds and stuff.. these last few posts you've made make me think you are either running really badly or maybe you should take a break from poker for awhile...

I don't remember disagreeing with you so much in advice from previous threads..

stpboy · Dec 15,2005, 12:46 PM

I'm actually running really well to be honest, I just rarely think that a drawing hand is the favourite. I dunno, it was a split second call from him and after the fact I didn't give it much thought. Until wayyyy after the fact. I would have made the same call as him I'm sure in a cash game but not have thought that I was the favourite, I usually don't think that until I'm actually ahead in the hand and on the board. I kinda posted this because Tyson has(d) said that I sucked out on the 7d9d hand. I was ahead the whole time in the hand but behind in odds...I understand now, there is a big difference. We can continue to disagree because really, all that matters...is that you're awesome.

stp

BBC Z · Dec 15,2005, 01:00 PM

Just remember theres always a difference between being the favourite and having a pot equity edge.

The latter is far more important than the former.