sick preflop call....or sick float?

darbday · Jan 17,2011, 11:23 PM

Poker Stars - $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em (9 players)
Poker Stars Hand Converter Tool from CardsChat.com

BU: $64.70
BU: $30.55
UTG: $9.55
MP Yoda: $63.19
MP+1: $60.59
MP+2: $75.07
LP: $20.61
CO: $63.64
BTN: $58.45

Pre-flop: ($0.35) Yoda is MP and dealt 8c Ac
UTG folds, Yoda raises $1.02, 4 folds, BTN calls $1.02, BU folds

Flop: ($2.39) Ad 2h 8h (2 players)
Yoda bets $1.25, BTN calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.89) Ad 2h 8h 9d (2 players)
Yoda bets $4.00, BTN calls $4.00

River: ($12.89) Ad 2h 8h 9d 5d (2 players)
Yoda bets $9.50, BTN raises $23.75, Yoda calls $14.25

Final Pot: $60.39

Showdown:
BTN shows Kd 3d
Outcome: BTN wins $58.84

reibs · Jan 18,2011, 07:20 AM

Both, a sick preflop call, and a sick float.... villian is obvi a spewtard. Get some notes on him....

fwiw - River shove is a FML fold imo. Which is why leading on the river is bad. I like to check/call on this river.

darbday · Jan 18,2011, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by reibs

fwiw - River shove is a FML fold imo.

he basically has to have back door flush me to be ahead here....would be a tough laydown

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Which is why leading on the river is bad. I like to check/call on this river.

heart draw won't bluff and all aces always call.

reibs · Jan 18,2011, 11:04 AM

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heart draw won't bluff and all aces always call.

So why call the shove then?

darbday · Jan 18,2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by reibs

So why call the shove then?

because there are many hands i beat (AK Type), he rarely floats a backdoor fd, and it wasn't a shove....

pokerJAH · Jan 18,2011, 11:35 AM

a lot of players call hands with suited K or A. I will sometimes call in this situation if I have a three card straight and three card flush combined draw, and good implied odds. Ex. Kd6d on flop of 4d5hQs. If a 7, 3 or diamond come on the turn, where am I going? You can win a big pot with runner, runner situations. Really need good implied odds to chase in this situation.

darbday · Jan 18,2011, 11:43 AM

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a lot of players call hands with suited K or A. I will sometimes call in this situation if I have a three card straight and three card flush combined draw, and good implied odds. Ex. Kd6d on flop of 4d5hQs. If a 7, 3 or diamond come on the turn, where am I going? You can win a big pot with runner, runner situations. Really need good implied odds to chase in this situation.

you described some of my strategy to a tee...however, i don't think that applies here so much....

reibs · Jan 18,2011, 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=darbday;253437]because there are many hands i beat (AK Type), he rarely floats a backdoor fd[QUOTE]

You said earlier that you thought all aces always call.

darbday · Jan 18,2011, 12:28 PM

[QUOTE=reibs;253490][QUOTE=darbday;253437]because there are many hands i beat (AK Type), he rarely floats a backdoor fd

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You said earlier that you thought all aces always call.

i meant never fold

(was the same in my mind but you are correct to point out)

but he will sometimes raise hands like ak....i mean im not happy about calling and not against folding but really....he really has to have a back door flush and i can make laydowns on that assumptions. I will add for the debate (which this is supposed to be a bb but thats okay) ive been practicing loose aggressive play and cannot lay this down as im getting bluffed at or value bet at with worse constantly....

reibs · Jan 18,2011, 01:04 PM

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because there are many hands i beat (AK Type), he rarely floats a backdoor fdi meant never fold

(was the same in my mind but you are correct to point out)

but he will sometimes raise hands like ak....i mean im not happy about calling and not against folding but really....he really has to have a back door flush and i can make laydowns on that assumptions. I will add for the debate (which this is supposed to be a bb but thats okay) ive been practicing loose aggressive play and cannot lay this down as im getting bluffed at or value bet at with worse constantly....

Yeah I realized this after my first post... sorry about that...

darbday · Jan 18,2011, 01:22 PM

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Yeah I realized this after my first post... sorry about that...

i never mind....nice to have discussion....alot of times though bb hand don't represent my play....saying that sometimes you guys catch mistakes i didn't even question....