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Jun 10,2008, 02:49 AM
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#1 | | Wannabe a Xuan Liu!
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| Negreanu's Power Hold'em Strategy Book Review
After cursing since last year why I pre-ordered Daniel Negreanu often-delayed Power Hold'em Strategy book, I was about to change my order to Gus Hansen's latest book or Kill Everyone, then the book suddenly arrived last week! It is not officially released yet, but I noticed that the online price has actually gone down since I pre-ordered.  Remind me never to pre-order a poker book again!
Since nobody will buy the book because of the chapters by Evelyn Ng and four other friends of Negreanu which unfortunately is 60% of the book, I immediately started reading his single "Small Ball" chapter.
My initial impression is one of disappointment. The weak-tight passive flop plays seems so exploitable by smart aggressive players. If there were quizzes in this book like the great books such as Harrington and Sklansky, I would fail since my aggressive plays would be opposite the passive plays he advises. Had I made so many passive plays on the flop such as checking a set of 9s on a flop of 
I would have had a lot less in-the-money finishes.
Unlike the 2+2 books which target advanced players, the audience intended for this book seems to be more novice players who are fans of Negreanu. While Negreanu was my poker god when I was a poker newbie in 2004, I'm not surprised now that he has won only one major MTT since then against the new generation of smart 3-betting and 4-betting players.
While I wouldn't mind everybody reading this book and facing an army of exploitable "Small Ball" bots in tournaments, there are many better books to read first. I hope that I will edit this review if I find mind-blowing epiphanies in the rest of the book like I experienced with the following great tournament books:
- The Poker Tournament Formula by Arnold Snyder. I can't wait to buy his upcoming PTF 2: Advanced Strategies for Big Money Tournaments.
- Harrington on Hold'em. Volume II is the best, followed by III and I.
- Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide, especially Andy Bloch's chapter.
- Tournament Poker for Advanced Players by David Sklansky, even though a lot of players keep misapplying his advice to the BEST player of passing up on +EV opportunities.
I would grade the first three above as "A" and Sklansky's book as B+. My tentative grade for Negreanu's book is a B.
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Jun 10,2008, 02:57 AM
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#2 | | Administrator
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Thanks for the review... guess I will be skipping that one |
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Jun 10,2008, 07:48 AM
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#3 | | Cash games are evil!
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with your writing background, ever thought about writing your own book Blondefish? Poker strategies from silicon north. It would probably be a lot more useful than most of the books out there.
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Jun 10,2008, 07:52 AM
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Very good review.
a B grade for Negreanu's book is too generous IMO.
its about on par with johnny chans book,
not much substance unless you're totally green.
The other books you mentioned, Poker Tournament Formula,
HOH 2, and the Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide are all
bargains at twice the price.
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Jun 10,2008, 07:53 AM
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#5 | | Full PFC Member
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Originally Posted by BlondeFish - Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide, especially Andy Bloch's chapter. | I've been preaching this book every since it first came out, but it seems to skip the masses. Most underated book ever, and Andy Bloch's section is easily the best piece of poker book strategy I have ever read IMO.
Daniel's book, was reading on another forum but I thought it was a joke. Did he diss online players and come out saying that he was n't gay?
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Jun 10,2008, 08:58 AM
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#6 | | Cash games are evil!
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Originally Posted by FalkyBones the Full Tilt Poker Strategy Guide | Is it available at Poker Bay, etc.?
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Jun 10,2008, 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by pokerJAH Is it available at Poker Bay, etc.? | Is it really that hard to just go to those sites yourself and do a search?
AFAIK, probably not on TPB unless I missed something in the past.
And thanks for the review BF, saved me the trouble of making a trip to the bookstore, reading through a bit it first and then decided I wasted an hour of my time. Full Tilt's Strategy compilation is definitely a diamond in the rough in terms of books...would recommend that one as well.
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Jun 10,2008, 09:21 AM
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#8 | | Living Legend
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Andy Bloch's section is easily the best piece of poker book strategy I have ever read IMO.
| Can somebody give a few hints as to an example of whats so revolutionary? It's highly unlikely that I read this book but I'm curious anyway.
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Jun 10,2008, 09:49 AM
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BBC, i pm'ed you suggesting that we bury the hatchet and stop the direct berating of each other. i asked you to be civil and please respond to my suggestion. instead, you ignore my gesture and change your signature to directly insult me.
fine. you win. i'll leave cpf. grats.
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Jun 10,2008, 10:03 AM
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#10 | | The Cake is a Lie
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Originally Posted by BBC Z Can somebody give a few hints as to an example of whats so revolutionary? It's highly unlikely that I read this book but I'm curious anyway. | It is eye opening for some people.
He basically shows how certain hands are not so bad compared to other hands and the idea that two unders vs. two overs or something like K-Q vs. A-9 is not such a big dog as people think it is.
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Jun 10,2008, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by BlondeFish My initial impression is one of disappointment. The weak-tight passive flop plays seems so exploitable by smart aggressive players. If there were quizzes in this book like the great books such as Harrington and Sklansky, I would fail since my aggressive plays would be opposite the passive plays he advises. Had I made so many passive plays on the flop such as checking a set of 9s on a flop of 
I would have had a lot less in-the-money finishes. | The greatest of all time did this with out second thought or fear every time he sat at the table "Stu Ungar"
Read Gus Hansen Every Hand Revealed
Started reading when I busted out of a tourney was on the table and I went out and bought it next day
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Jun 10,2008, 10:36 AM
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#12 | | Cash games are evil!
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Originally Posted by westside8 Is it really that hard to just go to those sites yourself and do a search? | this is why I put "etc", if someone knows of where its available online as a pdf.
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Jun 10,2008, 10:39 AM
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#13 | | Cash games are evil!
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Originally Posted by m_dolens BBC, i pm'ed you suggesting that we bury the hatchet and stop the direct berating of each other. i asked you to be civil and please respond to my suggestion. instead, you ignore my gesture and change your signature to directly insult me.
fine. you win. i'll leave cpf. grats. | just ignore it; he will get bored of it eventually and find something else useless to comment on.
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Jun 10,2008, 10:56 AM
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#14 | | Looking for a coach
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| Every Hand Revelaed, Kill Everyone, Elements of Poker
I ordered the Negreanu book a couple of years ago and then canceled it.
Thanks for the review.
You'll like the Gus Hansen book.
It lets you get into the mind his head and feed your inner Gus.
He makes a lot of plays getting 2 to 1, Something that I should start doing more often.
Want to know how to play lag pre and post flop? Gus shows you how.
It's a play by play of his thoughts hand by hand as he wins the Australian open.
There are some errors and it would be nice to have the hands the opponents didn't show (I guess it's released before the telecast) , but overall it's a good book.
If people want I'll post some hands from it.
Amazon.ca doesn't have Kill Everyone or Elements of Poker last I checked. Anyone know of a good way to get them? They are next on my reading list.
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Jun 10,2008, 01:08 PM
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#15 | | Living Legend
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just ignore it; he will get bored of it eventually and find something else useless to comment on.
| Aww thats so cute, you two are bonding.
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