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Old Aug 24,2008, 08:37 PM   #16
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This is why raising is optimal pre-flop; getting too tricky comes back to bite you.
Someone mentioned it also (couldn't recall who)..., they said that AAs pf is already technicall "there"..., it has nowhere to "get to" or "improve" upon..., however, AAs after the flop is still a pair regardless...,

I guess I'm just playing the hand tooo damn cute!
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Old Aug 25,2008, 06:54 AM   #17
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Someone mentioned it also (couldn't recall who)..., they said that AAs pf is already technicall "there"..., it has nowhere to "get to" or "improve" upon..., however, AAs after the flop is still a pair regardless...,

I guess I'm just playing the hand tooo damn cute!

I agree with this. I play AA, AK, KK, and QQ the exact same.

I make it very hard for anyone to come in to see a flop, and if they do, it's usually only one or two callers, so I'm in good shape.

Sure, sometimes I'll lose, but not very often, and I'm quite happy to steal the blinds most of the time with this hand, even if it's a small amount.

I would say that with these hands, I only lose about every 1/5 or less that I get called on. The other times it all depends on what is on the flop.

So, lets say I've got KK pre-flop. I make a large bet and get one caller.

After the flop, I will raise a bit more than I did before the flop, no matter what comes up (as long as I don't hit). Usually the other guy folds. If not, I am scared.

However, if another K comes up on the board, I play it like I might have pocket queens and just check. Usually the other guy has AQ or something and will raise me. This is when I turn around and put in a HUGE raise (big enough to scare him, but maybe pull him in for even more if he actually does have a hand. If he calls, we see the river and I win 99% of the time. Most of the time I'll get a fold, though, and take a nice pot.

For A's, same as above. AK I don't slow play at all. I simply put in a huge pre-flop raise then represent it on the flop with a bigger raise. I win the pot at that time more times than not, so once in a while it's ok to lose those chips. I won't call any more bets or raise any more after the flop if someone calls me though. Too risky and I already gave up a bunch of chips, so why give up more to lose?

If I hit with AK, I still play it aggressively on the flop, cause there are too many trip possibilities out there that will bust AK easily.

But yeah, I like what was mentioned earlier. AA is a made hand, so raise it most of the time to win. Top pair isn't a slow play hand. Something like a full house, a flush or a straight can be slow played a lot of the time, but I don't think top pair should be slow played unless you are HU, and even still, I want the other guy all-in when I have AA HU.
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Old Aug 25,2008, 07:42 AM   #18
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it all comes down to selective memory; you remember the times your aces get cracked but not the many times they hold up to win the pot.

I still remember playing at a club when I a player under the gun raised to $10 pre-flop (1/2) and I had pocket aces. I re-raised another $35 and he called me. The flop came 882 and he came out betting pot. I pushed and he called with 86off. Still remember this hand to this day.
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Old Aug 25,2008, 08:22 AM   #19
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Old Mar 29,2011, 08:42 PM   #20
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How not to play aces at online poker

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Old Mar 29,2011, 09:20 PM   #21
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Yea, at least you can admit it.

What a trainwreck.
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Old Mar 30,2011, 07:24 AM   #22
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who is this pkrfce9

could it be....

thought you had gone to another planet


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Old Mar 30,2011, 07:27 AM   #23
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his post was from 2008. Not sure what happened to Greg?

Yah, even if I re-raised pre-flop, he wasn't going anywhere so no change in the eventual outcome. Didn't see the other two players calling a 18BB pre-flop raise (likely set mining).
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Old Apr 06,2011, 08:28 AM   #24
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Yah, even if I re-raised pre-flop, he wasn't going anywhere so no change in the eventual outcome.
V v v v bad way of thinking of the hand. Make it 2.50 pre and shovel money in pre flop at any opportunity.
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