I guess the issue here is if you raise the flop are you ready to put more in on the turn. In this instance I may just call because of how wet the board is. My hand doesn't play well multiway here with lags unless I fill up. You also have the chance to bluff a lot of turn cards by not raising the flop. Then by smashing the turn you can see who actually has a hand instead of now "guessing" and because you made a move on the flop.
Basically you can't rep a flush or straight in this instance the way you played the hand pre flop so checking is your only option on the turn. If you had 2 spades or suited connectors I would have tended to smash the flop like you did so you could lead out on the turn and get check raised etc....
I guess the issue here is if you raise the flop are you ready to put more in on the turn. In this instance I may just call because of how wet the board is. My hand doesn't play well multiway here with lags unless I fill up. You also have the chance to bluff a lot of turn cards by not raising the flop. Then by smashing the turn you can see who actually has a hand instead of now "guessing" and because you made a move on the flop.
Basically you can't rep a flush or straight in this instance the way you played the hand pre flop so checking is your only option on the turn. If you had 2 spades or suited connectors I would have tended to smash the flop like you did so you could lead out on the turn and get check raised etc....
Interesting ...
I never considered checking such a wet board with 3 other people in the pot.
I put both of the callers on draws...
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. In this instance I may just call because of how wet the board is.
would this be the exact reason we raise for value?
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Originally Posted by blackmagicz
My hand doesn't play well multiway here with lags unless I fill up. .
a set? on a wet board doesn't play well?
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Originally Posted by blackmagicz
You also have the chance to bluff a lot of turn cards by not raising the flop. Then by smashing the turn you can see who actually has a hand instead of now "guessing" and because you made a move on the flop.
turning a set into a bluff?
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Originally Posted by blackmagicz
Basically you can't rep a flush or straight in this instance the way you played the hand pre flop so checking is your only option on the turn. If you had 2 spades or suited connectors I would have tended to smash the flop like you did so you could lead out on the turn and get check raised etc....
getting it in behind?
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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.
To further clarify LAGs are never folding a draw in these positions and if I am going to make a smallish bet on the flop its just as good as a check. The bet sizing in this hand is a little iffy if you are looking to take away the odds for LAGs to call on their draws incorrectly.
The turn just completes everything you thought they were looking to hit on the flop...so really you have technically just dumped 275 with no chance of getting that back unless you fill on the river because there is no way you can call any bets on the river in position.
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