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Old Aug 18,2008, 12:28 PM   #1
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200NL - Reraise on turn

jackhan is 15/9 over 137 hands for those who are keeping score.

I've played the hand a little atypical so I'm not looking for any comments on anything except where I stop the action.

POKERSTARS GAME #19711287994: HOLD'EM NO LIMIT ($1/$2) - 2008/08/18 - 12:45:25 (ET)
Table 'Telesto II' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: al_rus ($139 in chips)
Seat 2: jackhan ($208.25 in chips)
Seat 3: erod13 ($327.80 in chips)
Seat 4: kelly_kabob ($200 in chips)
Seat 5: lime80 ($426.30 in chips)
Seat 6: dymarko ($41 in chips)
Seat 7: Evanrude99 ($257.55 in chips)
Seat 8: jaysfan10001 ($140.50 in chips)
Seat 9: isdasstier ($176 in chips)
erod13: posts small blind $1
kelly_kabob: posts big blind $2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to kelly_kabob [Js Jc]
lime80: folds
dymarko: folds
Evanrude99: folds
jaysfan10001: folds
isdasstier: folds
al_rus: folds
jackhan: raises $6 to $8
erod13: folds
kelly_kabob: calls $6
*** FLOP *** [3d 4s 9d]
kelly_kabob: checks
jackhan: bets $12
kelly_kabob: raises $12 to $24
jackhan: raises $74 to $98

I tanked for quite some time before deciding. What do you do?
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Old Aug 18,2008, 01:07 PM   #2
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i fold. why?

and how did you come up with the title for this thread? or is it a hint?
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Old Aug 18,2008, 01:23 PM   #3
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I came up with the title because

a) I'm playing 200NL , and
b) he reraised me on the turn

It wasn't a hint. I'm basically left with either fold or shove. I guess I could have made it a poll but I'm not that fancy.
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Old Aug 18,2008, 01:37 PM   #4
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Could be a move due to your call preflop and weak reraise after the flop. Perhaps with two strong overs and/or the flush draw to back it up. I'd push back at you pretty hard here with enough outs if I were him.

Could also be trips or an over pair and you've got 2 outs. It's really hard to avoid going down to trips when you have an over pair.

This could go either way... without knowing the player I'd put it near 50/50. You've only committed $30 of your $200 I could justify folding here but the push is also justified.

Did I mention I hate pocket Js?
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Old Aug 18,2008, 01:45 PM   #5
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I fold... You may or may not be ahead... But when your not... Your crushed!!! Make it easier on yourselfvnext time and re-raise pre-flop
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Old Aug 19,2008, 07:36 AM   #6
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I eventually decided that the overbet raise was his effort to make me go away with his draw. I thought AdKd and decided my equity was enough.

Here's how the hand finished.

kelly_kabob: raises $94 to $192 and is all-in
jackhan: calls $94
*** TURN *** [3d 4s 9d] [Ks]
*** RIVER *** [3d 4s 9d Ks] [9h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
kelly_kabob: shows [Js Jc] (two pair, Jacks and Nines)
jackhan: mucks hand
kelly_kabob collected $398 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $401 | Rake $3
Board [3d 4s 9d Ks 9h]
Seat 2: jackhan (button) mucked [X X]

I thought the King killed me.
I had to finish some action on some other tables but I had to check and see what he had.

Anyone care to guess?
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Old Aug 19,2008, 07:51 AM   #7
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5d 6d or pocket 10s or maybe even pocket 5-8s?
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Old Aug 19,2008, 07:55 AM   #8
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AdXd? Shot in the dark either the 4 or 5 of diamonds.

Second guess 3x4x and he was playing a wierd hand, the second nine counterfeited him.

Third guess TT.
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Old Aug 19,2008, 08:44 AM   #9
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b) he reraised me on the turn
nope. try again...

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Old Aug 19,2008, 08:49 AM   #10
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nope. try again...

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Haha, I'm a donk. Too focused on the hand to get ALL the details right.

Villain had 5d 7d
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