jdAA88

Villain is very fishy but also passive, playing 39/1 over 69 hands.

I guess he has the nuts on the flop here (T7) alot?
Is the turn always a fold against this passive villain?

Stage #C91188189: Holdem No Limit $0.50 - 2010-07-15 03:31:17 (ET)
Table: AERO AVE (Real Money) Seat #3 is the dealer
Seat 3 - KAHLANSDADDY ($89.98 in chips)
Seat 4 - POKERMAJESTY ($81.64 in chips)
Seat 5 - HERO ($112.52 in chips)
Seat 6 - LUDAA ($57.75 in chips)
Seat 1 - TEAMUSA80 ($60.39 in chips)
Seat 2 - VKONYAHIN_RU ($56.25 in chips)
POKERMAJESTY - Posts small blind $0.25
HERO - Posts big blind $0.50
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to HERO [6d 9d]
LUDAA - Folds
TEAMUSA80 - Raises $2 to $2
VKONYAHIN_RU - Folds
KAHLANSDADDY - Calls $2
POKERMAJESTY - Calls $1.75
HERO - Calls $1.50
*** FLOP *** [9h 8d 6s]
POKERMAJESTY - Checks
HERO - Bets $6
TEAMUSA80 - Calls $6
KAHLANSDADDY - Raises $12.50 to $12.50
POKERMAJESTY - Folds
HERO - Calls $6.50
TEAMUSA80 - Calls $6.50
*** TURN *** [9h 8d 6s] [Jd]
HERO - Checks
TEAMUSA80 - Checks
KAHLANSDADDY - Bets $45.50
HERO - ?

STR82ACE

Not sure I could put him on the nuts here, but definitely a better hand. With and AF of only 1, and he minraises flop and bets pot on turn, I'm leaning more towards a set moreso than the nut straight.

I think most of your outs are voided now. Fold.

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actyper

I can see him with either T7 or JT here. I can't put him on a set after the flop raise, if he played it that way then he's a dumbass.

pokerJAH

I would probably come back with a further raise on the flop. Problem with these low flushes is you often run into a bigger flush, IME. Without the flush draw, its an easy fold. The flush draw sucks you in.

darbday

what do you think the 3rd player has and will do, maybe that's more important? but i see jt doing this alot, i can see a loose weak player min raise that flop as if theyve already made their straight. and then jamming the jack....!!!

DennisG

We are only playing .25/.50 here...many players are jamming when that flush draw hits to protect their tp/sd.. I can see 10J here or more likely 57...we still have outs but .... We are hopefully a coin flip (him having 10J) after the flop and same after the turn.. Are you feeling lucky?

edit- player 3 has likely 78, a10, k10...chasing the straight anyway..

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jdAA88

the 1 is the PFR, not AF.

ReefAquarium

Loose passive villian. I assume he's passive postflop if he's a 1 preflop.

Why didn't you repop him to say, $24 on the flop?


// Getting the obvious out of the way.

This $45 turn bet is a pot committing bet. ... for everyone.

So you're playing for stacks here.

You can beat a worse 2 pair/Overpair or top pair or a bluff.

Can you see a loose passive betting here with something you can beat?

What is Villain 2 calling with? He gets to act behind you?

2 choices.

1. If you don't think V1/2 has a set or straight, Shove all in to fold out V2 if he has a better 2 pair/draw.

2. Fold.

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syphilaids

tough spot for sure.

If it gets all in here I think we're beating the majority of his range, but I think he'll show up with 89, 9T, 77, 88 99, TT, 97, T7, 75, 78, J9, J7, etc.

I think his play makes sense with any of these hands, even though he is bad.
I personally would rather make a blocking bet on the turn, something like 1/2 the pot. Me personally, I'm not folding to the raiser. It sucks if I run into a straight for sure, but we have redraw potential. You don't have to worry about a higher fd, it hink thats ridiculous unless he has exactly Td7d, but I highly doubt he'd bet the pot on the turn.

Hell this idiot could be slow playing AA here. Get it in and I think you'll be ahead abotu 65% of the time. Good enough for me against this type of player.

Meistro

This is what happens when you start with non nut hands, you hit the best possible board for your hand and still lose.