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Old Sep 24,2011, 04:22 PM   #1
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Interesting Hand of the Night Numero Uno: Can someone run this equity for me?

I'm not at home...can someone run this?

1/2 NLH
Vilian blind raises 20 with 176 behind
Hero flats 44 no club
1 other player flats and folds every time hero calls the flop


Villian shoves all flops

Flop A77cc

Equity vs atc?
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Old Sep 24,2011, 04:28 PM   #2
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,070,190 games 0.078 secs 13,720,384 games/sec

Board: Ac 7c 7s
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equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.282% 48.97% 03.31% 524048 35467.00 { 4d4h }
Hand 1: 47.718% 44.40% 03.31% 475208 35467.00 { random }


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Old Sep 24,2011, 04:52 PM   #3
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Old Sep 24,2011, 04:58 PM   #4
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+1 awesome thread!

edit: also i don't know what im missing but in some way its gonna be the same as 44 vs a random pre because hes not looking at the flop.....so if you don't look you can snap call.....

not sure what im missing but theres something there

and with the pot odds...
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Old Sep 24,2011, 05:35 PM   #5
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Does the flop really matter when villian effectively pushes blind on any flop?
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Old Sep 26,2011, 03:10 AM   #6
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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

1,070,190 games 0.078 secs 13,720,384 games/sec

Board: Ac 7c 7s
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 52.282% 48.97% 03.31% 524048 35467.00 { 4d4h }
Hand 1: 47.718% 44.40% 03.31% 475208 35467.00 { random }


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Thanks, thought it was a flip...although I can pretty well take out all aces and 7s from his range given what I know of him...run it again sir?
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Old Sep 26,2011, 03:12 AM   #7
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Sick read...yes, it was him:



And I stacked him twice in an hour or so...have to love aipf in a cash game for 120ish bb KQ>QJ.
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Old Sep 26,2011, 03:16 AM   #8
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+1 awesome thread!

edit: also i don't know what im missing but in some way its gonna be the same as 44 vs a random pre because hes not looking at the flop.....so if you don't look you can snap call.....

not sure what im missing but theres something there

and with the pot odds...
He does look at the flop and when he is playing like this he shoves (imo) all non ace and non 7 hands. I just wanted to know a range vs all hands, I am a bit better than a flip when I exclude those hands in his range.

Also, I want his action later and there are regs at the table so a call here helps with metagame, etc. win or lose.
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Does the flop really matter when villian effectively pushes blind on any flop?
Not any flop, but most flops imo (see above). I assume that the paired 7s decrease my equity as an ace gives him a high card win quite often and any non-2/3/4 turn gives him even more outs for a high card win...I could be wrong.

If anyone can run the same stats for lets say an A6Tcc flop I'd like to see if it changes much.
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Not any flop, but most flops imo (see above).
OP noted Villian shoves all flops so you expect a paired flop is actually to your advantage vs 3 overs. I know a couple players like this guy in T.O. You can make a lot of money against them, but they do hit once in a while. But eventually you get your money back on later hands if they happen to hit.
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not sure what im missing but theres something there
i got it ...if you look at the flop the odds change .....so don't look at the flop...turn to your buddy as him "should i look at the flop?" and make your call according to his answer...


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Old Sep 30,2011, 12:49 PM   #12
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i got it ...if you look at the flop the odds change .....so don't look at the flop...turn to your buddy as him "should i look at the flop?" and make your call according to his answer...


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That's pretty cool. I think there was some type of quantum physics happening for me in your post but then I lost it.
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That's pretty cool. I think there was some type of quantum physics happening for me in your post but then I lost it.
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see thats the thing tho...as soon as you think you got it ....its gone!

right?



edit: phantom odds...
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Old Dec 11,2011, 08:12 PM   #14
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I'm not at home...can someone run this?

1/2 NLH
Vilian blind raises 20 with 176 behind
Hero flats 44 no club
1 other player flats and folds every time hero calls the flop


Villian shoves all flops

Flop A77cc

Equity vs atc?
fold preflop.. you not getting the right odds to call to set mine... unless of course you're shoving rag flops etc.......
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Old Dec 11,2011, 08:31 PM   #15
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fold preflop.. you not getting the right odds to call to set mine... unless of course you're shoving rag flops etc.......
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