Pantsonfire

Let's say this is online so the play is not that bad.

Hand is AQs in early/mid position. Raise to $4 is normal. CO re-raises to $16 and it's folded back to you. What would you do in various situations with various reads or no reads?

Same question except you now have AKs. How much does this change your answer?

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BigChrisEl

How deep are the stacks?

How aggressive is the table?

Is this full ring or short handed?

I'm assuming this is not your first hand so you could have some kind of read because you are early position.

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Pantsonfire

Sorry for the lack of details. It's a 10 man table but there is only one other active player for this hand example and he has position on you. There are no reads as this is very early. You only might know that most players here are not donks.

I'm just looking for general opinions. I would most fold AQ and might call or reraise AK.

Personally, I would put this player on AQ+, TT+.

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BigChrisEl

Again how deep are the stacks?

Most of the time I would fold AQ, but if the stacks are deep I may re-pop him and see what he does.

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Pantsonfire

The stacks are 100bb so repopping is getting you pot committed.

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Chuckieland

Fullring
just dump AQ 95% of time, and 5% time i'll repop it (only when i have note on this guy that will 3bet with trash)
AK 70% of time i'll fold, 30% of time i'll call it
6 max
is whole difference beast
I generally will never cold call 3bet with AQ unless it's mini 3bet.
AQ is not a hand you want to 4bet with
AK, i'll 4bet it 50% if villian is not a nit. call 25% of time, and fold 25% of time.

Chuckieland

no way
don't do a full size 4bet
you want to show weakness when you have a hand, and you want to leave room to fold when you don't have a hand.

actyper

Wow. I don't play full ring, but I can't ever imagine folding AKs 70% of the time to a 3bet

6max fold 25% of the time to a 3bet

Holy crap tightness

Dave Scharf

I make it 4. It gets to 16 by a player with position on me. So, I am facing a call of 12 into a pot of 21.5.

With AQ I probably just muck. I don't want to play a sketchy hand out of position. Getting to the flop with AQ will tend to win small pots or lose big pots (sort of reverse implied odds).

With AK I probably may it $32. I am NOT pot-commited. If I go $32 and get re-re-re-raised I sprain my wrist mucking my AK. The advantage to re-popping with AK is three fold: (1) How can AK make any money off a hand like QQ? Answer -- get most of it in pre-flop because there is no way to win much from QQ after an A or K hits the flop. (2) If you get called you have your opponent on a VERY narrow range of hands... AK AQ KK QQ JJ TT or thereabouts. Now although you are out of position his hand is faceup. If he has AK and the flop missed you will win with a 1/2 pot bet. (3) It is puttting the difficult decision back onto your opponent.

Anytime you face a hard decision, consider popping it and putting the decision back onto your. Make your future decision to fold easy.

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Chuckieland

FUllRING
99% of time (except maniac) when 3bet to you
you are facing range AA, KK, QQ, AK
i don't like my equality with my Ak against those hand.
JJ, TT, 99 will just call your raise.
if a donky on board, AQ and AJ will call too.
like i say, 6 max is a different games.

westside8

Can't speak for full ring as the only time I play it are MTTs and live, but I'm jamming/4-betting AK in a 6max game most of the time unless its against huge nits. (again..this is assuming I'm playing ABC in low-limit NL games)

Pantsonfire

I like this answer. Position is big in NL and your AQs is not going far without a flush draw, two pair or trip queens which doesn't happen often enough.

I also like re-raising with AK since a raise back would only likely be AA or KK and you can muck. Also, you may get TT-QQ to lay down pf which is pretty good for an A high hand.

Personally, I find calling re-raise heads up oop very weak and costly. Almost always the flop and the continuation bet are going to give you a really good opportunity to make a costly mistake. It might be okay if you are both really deepstacked like 500bb. In that case, the range for re-raising is wider and you have chips to play postflop.

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