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Old Feb 04,2011, 05:05 PM   #1
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Running the cards more than once?

I play at a home and get asked every once in a while to run the cards more than once, when is to my a advantage? Do the odds change? Is it better for the person ahead or the person behind.
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Old Feb 04,2011, 05:07 PM   #2
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Running it twice is 0 ev. If someone asks, you only gain karma by agreeing, so do it.
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Old Feb 04,2011, 05:07 PM   #3
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+ev to the guy behind
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Old Feb 04,2011, 09:08 PM   #4
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which one is it 0 ev or +ev from behind
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Old Feb 04,2011, 09:20 PM   #5
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ugghhh i had this straight before, i think it decreases the variance slightly...no?
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Old Feb 04,2011, 10:45 PM   #6
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lol, it doesn't change the ev but does reduce variance...
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Old Feb 04,2011, 11:23 PM   #7
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+ev to the guy behind
how?
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Old Feb 05,2011, 11:15 AM   #8
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odds don't change, ev doesn't change, only variance changes.
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Old Feb 05,2011, 11:23 AM   #9
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For some reason I thought a drawing hand had the advantage, say flush draw against 2 pair. Reason I thought that was:2 pair had less chance to improve than flush draw.
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Old Feb 05,2011, 11:36 AM   #10
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For some reason I thought a drawing hand had the advantage, say flush draw against 2 pair. Reason I thought that was:2 pair had less chance to improve than flush draw.
two pair had less chance before we drew twice....... too...... though
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Depends. Are there wild cards?
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Can be +EV or -EV to not run it twice in terms of meta game and psychology. If you refuse to run it twice it might make your opponents play passiver against you.
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Can be +EV or -EV to not run it twice in terms of meta game and psychology. If you refuse to run it twice it might make your opponents play passiver against you.
6th level thinking fwiw...
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When you run something once the original odds do play, when running something more than once you get the same odds in someway to look at it compounded upon themselfs, say 2 turns and 2 rivers for the flush draw instead of 1.....

with one time you have 2 pulls at lets be easy and say 9 cards
with twice you have 4 pulls at say 9 cards, decreases of course more based on first run, you have less in the deck of course whats burned who knows, but running on a basic kind of thought process he who is behind always has a better chance to catch up some while running it
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When you run something once the original odds do play, when running something more than once you get the same odds in someway to look at it compounded upon themselfs, say 2 turns and 2 rivers for the flush draw instead of 1.....

with one time you have 2 pulls at lets be easy and say 9 cards
with twice you have 4 pulls at say 9 cards, decreases of course more based on first run, you have less in the deck of course whats burned who knows, but running on a basic kind of thought process he who is behind always has a better chance to catch up some while running it
lolwut? as wetts would say.... Maybe write a book on this?
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