thought....

Vekked · Feb 07,2012, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by eeetee2011

im not a fan of donk betting in general but what are you trying to rep on this board and i still think him raising doesnt polarize his range very much but he could be bluffing since you played your hand like a draw

yea this is a board you should be leading 2 pair+ a lot vs. most "good" players. Many people check back any hands that don't hit a draw or strong 2 pair on coordinated boards (any hands that can't call a check raise), which is generally a good strategy because if you have 2nd pair and it's actually doing well vs. his check-raising range, so you don't want to bet/fold to check-raise, but bet/calling a raise becomes really tough to do because they're going to crush the board a lot of times as well. So a lot of players recognize it's best to pot control a lot of hands, and not c-bet things like AK which have a lot of equity going into the turn. Therefore donk betting is a good strategy to combat this so they can't pot control.

So I think donk betting a board this coordinated is generally really strong and a good play, but if you recognize that someone IS betting 7x and AK and hands they should be checking back on this board, check-raising becomes a lot better. Just depends on reads.

eeetee2011 · Feb 07,2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Vekked

yea this is a board you should be leading 2 pair+ a lot vs. most "good" players. Many people check back any hands that don't hit a draw or strong 2 pair on coordinated boards (any hands that can't call a check raise), which is generally a good strategy because if you have 2nd pair and it's actually doing well vs. his check-raising range, so you don't want to bet/fold to check-raise, but bet/calling a raise becomes really tough to do because they're going to crush the board a lot of times as well. So a lot of players recognize it's best to pot control a lot of hands, and not c-bet things like AK which have a lot of equity going into the turn. Therefore donk betting is a good strategy to combat this so they can't pot control.

So I think donk betting a board this coordinated is generally really strong and a good play, but if you recognize that someone IS betting 7x and AK and hands they should be checking back on this board, check-raising becomes a lot better. Just depends on reads.

Thanks i think i miss some of this stuff because 1 i play alot of mtts and when I i did play cash i 12-20 tabled 25 nl which didnt need as much thought

Vekked · Feb 07,2012, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eeetee2011

Thanks i think i miss some of this stuff because 1 i play alot of mtts and when I i did play cash i 12-20 tabled 25 nl which didnt need as much thought

For sure, and probably at 25NL people c-bet far too much and donk betting is almost unnecessary to have in your arsenal, it's only when people become more aware and pot control that you gotta start taking the initiative in these spots.