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Jul 08,2011, 11:32 AM
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...when you have appropriate VPIP/PFR stats for every position except CO? I just did an analysis and found out that I'm really passive in CO, about 35%, while I'm about 80% in every other position. EDIT: Other than the blinds, of course.  | 
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Jul 08,2011, 11:33 AM
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#2 | | Inhumano Forboon! |
over how many hands? but remember you might not be opening enough from that position because so many others are already opening first forcing you to fold hands like AT etc.
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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.
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Jul 08,2011, 12:42 PM
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Over about 2K hands, of which about 200 have been in CO. Small sample, I know, but it's a hole I have to work on. What range do you normally raise/reraise with from CO?
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Jul 08,2011, 12:50 PM
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#4 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by anyrag_dipscat  Over about 2K hands, of which about 200 have been in CO. Small sample, I know, but it's a hole I have to work on. What range do you normally raise/reraise with from CO? | if you treat it like the button you won't be far off i think
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Jul 08,2011, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by darbday if you treat it like the button you won't be far off i think | Ah, but the devil is always in the details. | |
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Jul 08,2011, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by anyrag_dipscat ...when you have appropriate VPIP/PFR stats for every position... | what is appropriate for every position?
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Jul 08,2011, 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by trigs what is appropriate for every position? | Depends on your style. A nit might be 9/7, a TAG might be 15/12, a LAG might be 35/30. A fish might be 80/0....
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Jul 08,2011, 07:19 PM
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#8 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by anyrag_dipscat Ah, but the devil is always in the details. | then were gonna need to know if this is six max or full ring   Quote:
Originally Posted by anyrag_dipscat Depends on your style. A nit might be 9/7, a TAG might be 15/12, a LAG might be 35/30. A fish might be 80/0.... | my range....you want MY range......YOU COULDN'T HANDLE MY RANGE.....
but all hilarious joking aside...your looking to play the same range as your button hands and adjust for a few things like wether the button will flat or 3bet lots or how the blinds play pre and post flop.
Were talking like pairs, suited aces, a9o and better, suited broadway, maybe all broadway and a few suited connectors........
but really i just mash buttons.... 
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Jul 09,2011, 07:43 AM
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Darbday, I play ONLY full ring and usually sit out if the number of active players drops below 7. I don't like the fast blinds on 6max. Call me weird.
Thanks for giving me your range. It'll be useful if we're ever at the same table.  But in terms of "a few" suited connectors, I rarely play any below T9. Am I ripping myself off?
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Jul 09,2011, 09:31 AM
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#10 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by anyrag_dipscat But in terms of "a few" suited connectors, I rarely play any below T9. Am I ripping myself off? | im not really a cash game players, but your not really ripping yourself off, its just you steal less if you play less hands. if the button is tight and the blinds are weak add hands like t9s yes, and 89s 78s etc. but you won't make much from them i think so its no big deal i think.
but theres others who are better who usually pipe in if i say something crazy off.
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Jul 09,2011, 09:35 AM
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Thanks. Anyone else want to weigh in on this issue?
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Jul 09,2011, 09:37 AM
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#12 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by anyrag_dipscat Thanks. Anyone else want to weigh in on this issue? | What...OMG.... 
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Jul 09,2011, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by darbday What...OMG.... | What are you mad about?
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Jul 09,2011, 09:43 AM
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#14 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by anyrag_dipscat What are you mad about? | no im just kidding...anyone else?
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Jul 09,2011, 01:10 PM
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#15 | | Inhumano Forboon! |
also...
if we find we are losing from this position or not doing well we can drop to 88+, aq+, ajs+, kqs...
from here if the button and blinds are tight we can add some hands, best to add hands that play well when called...like suited aces and suited broadway...that we can continue to barrel with draws or back door draws.
if they are loose pre flop but tight post flop we can add more suited connectors like t9s or 87s and barrel anytime we hit anything
if they three bet lots we can lower our raise size and flat in position with our intial semi strong range. or we can tighten up and 4bet the stronger parts of our range....
if they are really tight we can open up suited high cards like k7s
same as the button but you just have to adjust for how the button plays...does he flat 3bet or fold alot..
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