bintells

Location: Local Casion 1/2 Game.
Situation: Game has being pretty loose as it is very late into the night
UTG (Tight, smi aggresive, stack $200) raise to $15
Hero (97 of diamond, Stack $450) MP before cut off. Called
Small blind (Ultra loose aggresive, Stack $225) Called
Everyone else folded and the flop comes 2d3d2s
UTG bets $20
Hero & Small blind calls
turn comes 7c, UTG check, Hero bets $55, Small blind thank for a min and called. UTG then folded.
River comes 5d, Small blind tank for 30 sec and shove
Is hero good here in this spot?

DrTyore

If I"m reading this right (which rarely happens)

The pot on the river is $217, and the SB pushes for $135, giving you a call of $135 into $352 (~2.6:1). The board is a 2-3-2-7-5 flushing in diamonds. And you have the 9 high flush. Given the odds, the description of the SB, this is a call.

Also, unless $>=15 has been standard through the night, bad call pre.

Mark

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This game is broken, nice spew pre

River I guess is down to a read, no way for us to tell you much given villains line, you probably call and pray

Edit: Bluffing the turn doesn't really make sense either

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pokerJAH

Obviously you lost to a better flush.

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compuease

As played this is a definite call. If you weren't going to call when you made your flush, why call pre? Oh and effective stack is only $200.
Summary - fold pre... Not deep enough. Welcome to the forum...

bintells

Thanks for the replies. Yeah standard raise has being around $12 to $15 all night. So what effective stack should be at for a hand like 97 of diamond to have value in calling? I didn't put villain on the flush draw at the turn. I figured he might have trip 2 as he tanked a min, thinking of raising. However, when the flush come he shoves which made me think he might represent a fullhouse.

blackmagicz

97 has value at any given bet in any game. I think what you have to look at his what hand ranges to assign to people opening? Every LAG/TAG has a certain pattern of cards they play more often than not in a certain game.

I mean if I am playing 97 I know what board I am looking to hit. In this situation you have a pretty decent flop, not the best but when UTG leads you know he doesn't have any piece of that so you are looking at the stragglers.

In this instance I give UTG some range like maybe 10s-AA a small percent of time, never is UTG holding a deuce. Now you have to worry about everyone else who has come in....with. The call on the turn gives SB two hands flush draw or a deuce, no other hand ranges. The shove on the river leads me to believe he has a deuce and he is trying to rep a stronger hand.

Either way I make a crying call.

I would have rather smashed the flop in position to better define hands here. Going to 65 on the flop would have probably gotten you heads up and a free look at the turn where you hit a nice card and you end up having show down value.

In these situations I like to punish the flop to get a free look at the turn, instead of calling the flop and then having to bet the turn where I don't know where I am at. Technically speaking the bet on the turn is just as good as a check. There are not many hands someone who called the flop is folding to a turn bet.