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Old Jan 11,2010, 08:21 PM   #1
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LAG Style, Can It Be Profitable?

Hello all,

I am just wondering if anyone here is or knows of Loose Aggressive's who are profitable at higher levels of Fixed Limit Hold'em.

I have noticed the play at $3/$6 especially on PokerStars is very tight, the Shark type players waiting for only the very best hands and then raising, never limping.

Seems to me that LAGs would get stomped at that level because if they showdown with TAGs they will often have the lesser kicker. Also there is the simple fact that the pot odds justify betting on a hand like AKo to the end with 1-2 opponents at the Flop because if no one has hit a pair then AK will win the pot.

By all means LAGs can be profitable at NL. I just want opinions on FL.

Thanks!

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Old Jan 11,2010, 08:37 PM   #2
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Hello all,

I am just wondering if anyone here is or knows of Loose Aggressive's who are profitable at higher levels of Fixed Limit Hold'em.

I have noticed the play at $3/$6 especially on PokerStars is very tight, the Shark type players waiting for only the very best hands and then raising, never limping.

Seems to me that LAGs would get stomped at that level because if they showdown with TAGs they will often have the lesser kicker. Also there is the simple fact that the pot odds justify betting on a hand like AKo to the end with 1-2 opponents at the Flop because if no one has hit a pair then AK will win the pot.

By all means LAGs can be profitable at NL. I just want opinions on FL.

Thanks!

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im very LAG and have been very profitable at 10/20 and 5/10.
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im very LAG and have been very profitable at .10/.20 and .5/.10.
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Old Jan 11,2010, 11:21 PM   #5
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Old Jan 13,2010, 12:24 PM   #9
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Hello all,

I am just wondering if anyone here is or knows of Loose Aggressive's who are profitable at higher levels of Fixed Limit Hold'em.

I have noticed the play at $3/$6 especially on PokerStars is very tight, the Shark type players waiting for only the very best hands and then raising, never limping.

Seems to me that LAGs would get stomped at that level because if they showdown with TAGs they will often have the lesser kicker. Also there is the simple fact that the pot odds justify betting on a hand like AKo to the end with 1-2 opponents at the Flop because if no one has hit a pair then AK will win the pot.

By all means LAGs can be profitable at NL. I just want opinions on FL.

Thanks!

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You're right, you shouldn't LAG with AX vs TAGs AK ...

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LAG is not profitable at tables with mainly Loose Passive calling station type players that are ubiquitous in the lower limits.

There is not point being aggressive with air if you must end up showing the donk a hand.

LAGing it up is a good tool, against tight passive/weak tight players.

LAG is also a nice gear to have if you've been pegged by your table as a TAG.

Please note:

Good LAGs don't go against TAGs AK with AJo, they go up against AK with 33 or 76s.
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LAG is not profitable at tables with mainly Loose Passive calling station type players that are ubiquitous in the lower limits.
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Exactly... it depends on how others are playing.

to me LAG is more often than not the best way to play.

But for instance at a casino midnight Saturday night, everyones drunk, good luck getting anyone off a hand ever. Play tight and ultra agressive, raising 6 times the blinds if you have KK for instance is wise, cause people are there to play and they dont like folding. They'll call just to see what you have rather than actually thinking they are ahead.


Players that play TAG and multitable with like 6 tables are perfect to play LAG against, the fold equity builds and the maths works in your favour.
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Also, from what the top players tell me is that an experienced, winning lag is not going to win more than an equally experienced, winning tag.

At the end of the year the tag's line graph is going to look less 'bumpy' and the lag's is going to more closely resemble that of a heartrate monitor...but all in all they're going to end up winning the same amount of money. More specifically, if you're lagging then all you're really doing is increasing variance. So although you win the same amount, you will have a tougher year because of the increased swings and the stress that stems from that.

There are so many yahoos out there that love their JTs and their 97s to keep tags profitting for years to come. Imo, it's not worth the stress. Having said that, you should always develop all gears so you can function in a diverse table selection. Work on lag and slag, to throw your opps off in the higher stakes.

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