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Old Mar 19,2010, 07:06 AM   #16
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is it really called cold calling when he raises? and when you say 'in this position' hes actually in the best position in the hand.

i'm fine with it, not a limit player, but with a big pot you stand to make some money on certain boards. its likely most of the others are holding high cards, so you just have to be able to laydown top pair, or 2nd pair post flop. 2 pair is a good flop but not ideal. i may have checked the turn but im a nl player so im guessing for limit. i do think though, or assume that many intermediate players over play suited connectors, just a theory.

They had a lot of outs but you got to see a large pot for fairly cheap with a good shot
Guys,

Good and bad news...

Bad news... You are probably leaking 3+ big blinds an hour due to bad preflop play.


The good news is you can easily make a *HUGE* improvement in your play if you learn how to play preflop properly. It only takes a moment to create a good preflop chart and stick it on your monitor.

Doing this is the low hanging fruit that you should pick asap.
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Old Mar 19,2010, 01:12 PM   #17
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is it really called cold calling when he raises? and when you say 'in this position' hes actually in the best position in the hand.

i'm fine with it, not a limit player, but with a big pot you stand to make some money on certain boards. its likely most of the others are holding high cards, so you just have to be able to laydown top pair, or 2nd pair post flop. 2 pair is a good flop but not ideal. i may have checked the turn but im a nl player so im guessing for limit. i do think though, or assume that many intermediate players over play suited connectors, just a theory.

They had a lot of outs but you got to see a large pot for fairly cheap with a good shot
He cold called the open raise in MP with suited connectors and several players left to act behind him -- this is terrible play in LHE.

He got to see the flop for the most money possible -- not cheaply.

He was fortunate that several players saw the flop but there is not way that this could be known when he made the initial cold call.

This hand is just a spewing of money. The only good play is to fold preflop in this position with these cards.
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Old Jun 04,2010, 08:03 AM   #18
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Old Sep 24,2010, 10:09 PM   #19
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I think his poker odds were telling him to fold pre-flop as well.

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Old Jan 06,2011, 08:08 PM   #20
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The time to raise with this hand before the flop is typically on the button or cut off after a lot of really bad loose passive limpers. By capping here you are tremendously lowering your implied odds by choosing to pay more; you are going to miss the flop a lot with this hand but when you do make a hand it will be much stronger. You are really just playing bad before the flop in order to make your bad plays on later street less bad. If there were 6 or 7 players in before the flop you would have more justification for an equity cap. And yes, cold calling here is very bad. Cold calling is just losing poker. Raise or fold baby, all day long.
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