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Oct 30,2008, 02:22 PM
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#1 | | Full PFC Member
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| good range of hand for omaha ?
what is best 20BB shortstack push range for omaha hi
why shortstack?
1. i do not know how to play that game
2. insanely high flop seem plus alot bigger average pot compare to NL, thurs, faster bonus clearing.
so far, i figure
two pocket pair
AK/Q+ PP is good range to try to get it in preflop.
what else should i be pushing with?
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Oct 30,2008, 02:24 PM
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#2 | | Forum Troll - Admin Style |
You shouldn't be trying to get it in preflop, as no hand is ever that big of a favourite over another hand - unlike NLHE. Instead, you are better off seeing a flop first prior to making any moves.
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Oct 30,2008, 02:29 PM
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#3 | | It's phonetic! | Quote:
Originally Posted by westside8  You shouldn't be trying to get it in preflop, as no hand is ever that big of a favourite over another hand - unlike NLHE. Instead, you are better off seeing a flop first prior to making any moves. | +1
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Oct 30,2008, 06:46 PM
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#4 | | PFC Asshole and Commander
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Don't bluff too much esp on the flop.
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Oct 30,2008, 07:37 PM
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Pushing minimum 2 pair, and backup draws.
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Oct 30,2008, 09:35 PM
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#6 | | #bonking
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If you're going to shortstack push preflop than any AAxx, any run 8 hi or better with at least single suited (not 3 cards of the same suit), any 1 gapper hand at least single suited -- ie -- 9 765. Two pairs in your hand or a pair in your hand less than kings decreased the value or your hand -- ie -- 8765 better than 8776, etc. Calling-off 20bb with 8764 with 2-3 all-ins infront of you is actually a profitable play in Omaha, especially at a typical low-limit table where people are playing their big cards strong.
AK88 is not a decent all-in hand, you want all 4 cards playing together for max value against other hands.
You're better-off learning to play and playing deepstacked, it will decrease your variance and you can still play tonnnes of hands at a 6 max game and be profitable. The above is just gambooling.
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Oct 31,2008, 10:48 AM
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#7 | | Untapped Future Greatness
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In a cash game......rebuy, don't play short stacked. Easiest money in this game is made post flop, not preflop.....as stated below, you'll never be a huge favourite preflop.
Tourney play shortstacked......I'd agree with GTA for the most part.
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Dec 24,2008, 10:09 AM
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#8 | | Junior Member
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker If you're going to shortstack push preflop than any AAxx, any run 8 hi or better with at least single suited (not 3 cards of the same suit), any 1 gapper hand at least single suited -- ie -- 9 765. Two pairs in your hand or a pair in your hand less than kings decreased the value or your hand -- ie -- 8765 better than 8776, etc. Calling-off 20bb with 8764 with 2-3 all-ins infront of you is actually a profitable play in Omaha, especially at a typical low-limit table where people are playing their big cards strong.
AK88 is not a decent all-in hand, you want all 4 cards playing together for max value against other hands.
You're better-off learning to play and playing deepstacked, it will decrease your variance and you can still play tonnnes of hands at a 6 max game and be profitable. The above is just gambooling. | +1
Your range if you decide to play a shortstacked strategy in PLO with only 20BB should only consist of AAxx and some hi rundowns 789T, 89TJ etc. MAYBE KKxx. QQxx is very marginal, as you're only going to be a slight favourite over something like JJxx or TTxx, even then, they have pretty good equity against you.
if you want to learn PLO, play deeper, only 20BB is just gambling
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