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Feb 22,2010, 08:15 PM
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#1 | | DVD collecting maniac | NL-Omaha heads up questions
a co-worker and I are going to switch to no limit omaha for a change tomorrow. I haven't played it before..Are there any sure fire basic HU strategies to employ? Anything I should avoid like the plague? I know range must be opened up when HU, so other than an unpaired rainbow hand, i can't think of anything I should fold pre?
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Feb 22,2010, 08:18 PM
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#2 | | It's phonetic! |
Don't fold anything pre unless he raises stupid.
Omaha is a post-flop game..... I would keep the raising to 2.5x at MOST preflop without a sick hand, and then pwn him post.
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Feb 23,2010, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by DrTyore  Don't fold anything pre unless he raises stupid.
Mark | 100% disagree.
While Omaha is more of a post flop game, your starting hand can and will dictate a lot of how you play.
I mean, I am never called a raise with a hand like k934 1 suit. And I am raising most hands like 67910ss. Hands like jj74 are garbage most times come the river.
Omaha is a game of the nuts. You should only be in the hand if you have the nuts or a draw to the nuts. Because a lot of the times, if you don't have it, someone else does. 1 pair isn't going to win very often. 2 pair only sometimes in heads up.
Another thing is bet your hand. Generally in omaha the opponent can catch up a lot if you give them free cards. Hence why the variance of game is so high.
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Feb 23,2010, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by HammerDad ...Hence why the variance of game is so high. | Hence, the game is usually played Pot Limit rather than No Limit.
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Feb 23,2010, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerDad 100% disagree.
While Omaha is more of a post flop game, your starting hand can and will dictate a lot of how you play.
I mean, I am never called a raise with a hand like k934 1 suit. And I am raising most hands like 67910ss. Hands like jj74 are garbage most times come the river.
Omaha is a game of the nuts. You should only be in the hand if you have the nuts or a draw to the nuts. Because a lot of the times, if you don't have it, someone else does. 1 pair isn't going to win very often. 2 pair only sometimes in heads up.
Another thing is bet your hand. Generally in omaha the opponent can catch up a lot if you give them free cards. Hence why the variance of game is so high. | This can be a true statement for full ring or 6-handed, but certainly not HU. 2-handed, neither player is likely to hold nuts....value can be gained by betting hands you would never bet full ring.
I'm pretty much an any 4 card (in an unraised pot) when HU, and adjust my play post flop/turn/river.
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Feb 23,2010, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by T8urmoney This can be a true statement for full ring or 6-handed, but certainly not HU. 2-handed, neither player is likely to hold nuts....value can be gained by betting hands you would never bet full ring.
I'm pretty much an any 4 card (in an unraised pot) when HU, and adjust my play post flop/turn/river. | Yeah, I guess HU your range can expand. And unraised you will either have position which is huge in omaha or be the BB so your chips are in there already.
The problem starts when the villain raising and 3betting and using position. Position in omaha is a big deal.
When playing heads up I may play a wider range of hands, but that range will be when I am the botton and not from the BB. I mean, last thing I was to do is call a raise OOP with Ad10s7c3s have the flop come 1062 rainbow and have to jam it in there hoping I can crack an over pair or that villain doesn't have a hand like 987j, where he has huge equity.
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Feb 23,2010, 01:36 PM
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#7 | | comma man
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Originally Posted by DrTyore Don't fold anything pre unless he raises stupid.
Omaha is a post-flop game..... I would keep the raising to 2.5x at MOST preflop without a sick hand, and then pwn him post.
Mark | that's bad advice...I'm too tired to get into this, but don't do this
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Feb 23,2010, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 13CARDS Hence, the game is usually played Pot Limit rather than No Limit. | very useful comment
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Feb 23,2010, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by HammerDad 100% disagree.
While Omaha is more of a post flop game, your starting hand can and will dictate a lot of how you play.
I mean, I am never called a raise with a hand like k934 1 suit. And I am raising most hands like 67910ss. Hands like jj74 are garbage most times come the river.
Omaha is a game of the nuts. You should only be in the hand if you have the nuts or a draw to the nuts. Because a lot of the times, if you don't have it, someone else does. 1 pair isn't going to win very often. 2 pair only sometimes in heads up.
Another thing is bet your hand. Generally in omaha the opponent can catch up a lot if you give them free cards. Hence why the variance of game is so high. | also bad advice for NL HU
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optimal strategy for HU PLO is going to vary greatly depending on who your dealing with. if your opponent is a neophyte, i would guess hes going to play too many hands. as a starting point, id say you should probably be playing about 50-70% of your hands. your average hand is going to be any double suited w/ some connectors or 3card run with one suit or medium/big pair with a suit.
some general tips...
- you dont have to bet the full pot. give some thought to your bet sizing.
- bet in position an overwhelming majority of the time...most beginner players dont c/r enough
- play your button very loosely, position is SOOOO important in this game.
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Feb 24,2010, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker very useful comment | Ditto
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Originally Posted by 13CARDS Ditto | please link to one useful post that you've ever made in any strategy section...do you ever play poker?
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker please link to one useful post that you've ever made in any strategy section...do you ever play poker? | I've played live poker once in the last 14 months. Thanks for asking.
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker please link to one useful post that you've ever made in any strategy section...do you ever play poker? | Why must I post in the strat sections?
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Originally Posted by 13CARDS Why must I post in the strat sections? | my point exactly
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