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Old Jan 19,2010, 06:30 PM   #16
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Tks for the responses.....I really came close to folding, but decided to jam and gamble with the spew monkey....he, of course, calls the rest of his chips.

Here's how it broke down:

UTG+1= 99
MP = KK
CO = A10os
BB = AKsoooooted

Flop was a disaster......4 5 10 rainbow (none of my suit of course), turn A, river 5.

Spew monkey hits big, and takes in massive pot.
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Old Jan 20,2010, 06:22 AM   #17
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Tks for the responses.....I really came close to folding, but decided to jam and gamble with the spew monkey....he, of course, calls the rest of his chips.

Here's how it broke down:

UTG+1= 99
MP = KK
CO = A10os
BB = AKsoooooted

Flop was a disaster......4 5 10 rainbow (none of my suit of course), turn A, river 5.

Spew monkey hits big, and takes in massive pot.
we talked about all nince sng players going all to you on the bb with Aces, and how its more ev to fold, i don't know if exactly works here but i assume that its a fold from that...i guess you could suggest someone has a monster, someone has a decent ace, and someone has a pp....or am i just being stupid after knowing the hand.
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sorry you got unlucky bro. like you saw, you have the donk dominated.
And against KK and 99 you're going to win 30% of the time, so you have better then perfect odds to do it.
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Old Jan 21,2010, 03:25 PM   #19
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sorry you got unlucky bro. like you saw, you have the donk dominated.
And against KK and 99 you're going to win 30% of the time, so you have better then perfect odds to do it.

still 30% with a dead ace? seems high..
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Old Jan 25,2010, 05:17 PM   #20
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still 30% with a dead ace? seems high..
I think the key to this, is the donk being in the hand. If the donk folded.....I'm pretty sure I would have as well, as I didn't have a break even proposition built in.
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Old Jan 26,2010, 03:04 AM   #21
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You can think about it this way. You're getting a 3K discount on the main pot.

It's you vs spewy donk for a 12 x 2 = 24K side pot OR maybe he folds to your shove. And you're probably going to have 60+% equity vs him.

Otherwise you're calling another 16K to play for 3K + 19K + 19K + 12K (53K).

That is some sick odds and if they all have pairs like 66 ABC vs TT Tag vs 88 Spew, you're in a pretty sick spot with a lot of equity. The structure looks quick, I'm getting my chips in here.

Sure AK is foldable, but g'dam we're playing 13BB effective stacks.
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Old Feb 04,2010, 11:53 AM   #22
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still 30% with a dead ace? seems high..
Yeah thats if donk wasn't in.
2 outter is about 18% I believe.
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