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Old Sep 06,2010, 12:12 AM   #1
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Bottom of Calling range

Stove not working on my laptop. Plz to be letting me know the bottom of your calling range here. Think I have it, but need to check.

Assume villain shoves ATC.

PokerStars Game #49199092995: Tournament #328010877, $10+$1 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (2000/4000) - 2010/09/06 0:01:45 ETTable '328010877 78' 9-max
Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: ORtrack05 (65670 in chips)
Seat 2: bigoots (87755 in chips)
Seat 3: Bunkerwaker (103368 in chips)
Seat 4: Wetts1012 (37047 in chips)
Seat 5: herschelw (290991 in chips)
Seat 6: wmustar (134410 in chips)
Seat 7: trist385 (84306 in chips)
Seat 8: Richie912 (146798 in chips)
Seat 9: hugodarosa (134169 in chips)
ORtrack05: posts the ante 400
bigoots: posts the ante 400
Bunkerwaker: posts the ante 400
Wetts1012: posts the ante 400
herschelw: posts the ante 400
wmustar: posts the ante 400
trist385: posts the ante 400
Richie912: posts the ante 400
hugodarosa: posts the ante 400
Bunkerwaker: posts small blind 2000
Wetts1012: posts big blind 4000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Wetts1012 [xx xx]
herschelw: folds
wmustar: folds
trist385: folds
Richie912: folds
hugodarosa: folds
ORtrack05: folds
bigoots: folds
Bunkerwaker: raises 40000 to 44000
Wetts1012:
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Old Sep 06,2010, 12:16 AM   #2
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Likely A8+, any pair, any 2 face's.... course I'm a rock... ymmv
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Old Sep 06,2010, 12:21 AM   #3
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Likely A8+, any pair, any 2 face's.... course I'm a rock... ymmv
I didnt ask what range we turbo snap........

We have to be like 60/40 in the good against ATC range with this.

Im pretty sure we only need 48ish.
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Old Sep 06,2010, 12:33 AM   #4
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Nevermind stove back working. Still interested to hear tho.
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Old Sep 06,2010, 12:35 AM   #5
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Likely A8+, any pair, any 2 face's.... course I'm a rock... ymmv
vs. ATC? :S

Something like this is probs close:

22+,A2s+,K2s+,Q4s+,J7s+,T8s+,A2o+,K3o+,Q8o+,J9o+

If he's literally 32o+, then like...

22+, Ax, Kx, Qx, Jx, T5o+,T2s+, 96o+, 95s+, 87, 85s+, 76s
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Old Sep 06,2010, 12:43 AM   #6
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any pair any ace k9 up all broadway. 98 and t9 suited

but now that i read this i copy vekked
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Old Sep 06,2010, 01:09 AM   #7
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still like mine best...... I don't copy...

And now that you're my horse... better pay attention..
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Old Sep 06,2010, 01:39 AM   #8
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vs. ATC? :S


22+, Ax, Kx, Qx, Jx, T5o+,T2s+, 96o+, 95s+, 87, 85s+, 76s
this

Btw what are you and herschelw doing in the same $10 game? WTF?
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ATC are a bit of a stretch don't you think? Or are you assuming villain is just that bad?

Edit: Also I did this

Chips if win: 3600+32647+37047= 68894

Chips if fold: 32647

Therefore we must win 47,4% of the time so be careful not to assign a spew range here

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Old Sep 06,2010, 08:55 AM   #10
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Btw what are you and herschelw doing in the same $10 game? WTF?
It was the 10 cubed.

And he took a 200K pot off me KK > AhKh on a KQJ 2heart board. Cooleraments.
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Old Sep 06,2010, 08:57 AM   #11
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ATC are a bit of a stretch don't you think?
I mean hes not shoving the 2/3 but you know what I mean.

Anyway I called with the Q8ss and figured that was close to the bottom of my range.

Ran into QJ but got there, YAY.
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I mean hes not shoving the 2/3 but you know what I mean.

Anyway I called with the Q8ss and figured that was close to the bottom of my range.

Ran into QJ but got there, YAY.
Standard Wetts strategy, then . . .

With your stack, I would have said any Ace, King, or Queen is a shove. Jack down to about J/7, 10/8. But what the hell do I know?
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ATC are a bit of a stretch don't you think? Or are you assuming villain is just that bad?

Edit: Also I did this

Chips if win: 3600+32647+37047= 68894

Chips if fold: 32647

Therefore we must win 47,4% of the time so be careful not to assign a spew range here

where does the percent come from...thank you sirs....?
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Old Sep 06,2010, 01:19 PM   #14
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where does the percent come from...thank you sirs....?
chips if fold / chips if win.
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Old Sep 06,2010, 01:26 PM   #15
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chips if fold / chips if win.
man thats tough...i just can't stop running hand ranges through my head long enough to think...
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