Call unknown's shove with AJs in SB?

jdAA88 · Jul 29,2009, 12:49 AM

Villain has been at the table for 3 hands so no reads...what are you doing here?

Poker Stars $3.00+$0.30 No Limit Hold'em Tournament - t5000/t10000 Blinds + t1250 - 9 players
The Official 2+2 Hand Converter Powered By DeucesCracked.com

CO: t129867 M = 4.95
BTN: t245418 M = 9.35
Hero (SB): t154090 M = 5.87
BB: t192991 M = 7.35
UTG: t201376 M = 7.67
UTG+1: t161344 M = 6.15
UTG+2: t173508 M = 6.61
MP1: t324109 M = 12.35
MP2: t204519 M = 7.79

Pre Flop: (t26250) Hero is SB with J

A

1 fold, UTG+1 raises to t160094 all in, 5 folds, Hero ?

westside8 · Jul 29,2009, 12:50 AM

M too low to be folding this.

DennisG · Jul 29,2009, 02:15 AM

3 dollar game? Call all day. Probably beat..lol..but as is said...Low M.

blackmagicz · Jul 29,2009, 09:35 AM

Must call

jdAA88 · Jul 29,2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ihaveyourname

3 dollar game? Call all day. Probably beat..lol..but as is said...Low M.

I should have been more specific in the title, it's the $3.30 rebuy but there's less than 200 players left at this point, and first place was ~6k.

liquidfire · Jul 29,2009, 12:57 PM

high five monitor and get it in

jdAA88 · Jul 29,2009, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by liquidfire

high five monitor and get it in

lol just pictured myself doing that, too funny....

jdAA88 · Jul 29,2009, 05:46 PM

Guys, shouldn't we factor in that villain is shoving in EP and as for that, AJs can't really be doing that well, even against an unknown...

Wetts1012 · Jul 29,2009, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jdAA88

Guys, shouldn't we factor in that villain is shoving in EP and as for that, AJs can't really be doing that well, even against an unknown...

Ill probably be the only one in this thread that folds here.

Cerberus · Jul 29,2009, 10:57 PM

I'd toss it. EP shove, you're SB, and the BB has you stacked too. I take a walk and look for a better spot. I probably wouldn't find said better spot, but I'd look.

jdAA88 · Jul 30,2009, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wetts1012

Ill probably be the only one in this thread that folds here.

lol, was waiting for someone who would suggest this!

Wetts1012 · Jul 30,2009, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by jdAA88

lol, was waiting for someone who would suggest this!

I just dont like the spot. This includes villain stack size and position. And we are by no means "desperate". Sure we are short at the table, but 2-3 quick blind steals in good position and you're right back.

If open shove comes from CO or BTN obv. this is a fistpump.

I just cant see villains range being any worse than 88+, AJ+, in which case things dont look great.

Cerberus · Jul 30,2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wetts1012

I just dont like the spot. This includes villain stack size and position. And we are by no means "desperate". Sure we are short at the table, but 2-3 quick blind steals in good position and you're right back.

If open shove comes from CO or BTN obv. this is a fistpump.

I just cant see villains range being any worse than 88+, AJ+, in which case things dont look great.

+1.

Monteroy · Jul 30,2009, 09:34 AM

You do need to take a few more chances in that tournament with 200ish left given the payout structure (top 18/final table a huge jump, 1000-19th are tiny increases), but with 15BBs calling a 11 BB shove with AJ seems a bit light, assuming the guy who shoved is not nuts.

Lots can dominate you, not much you dominate, some may be races. Your stack is not beautiful but it still is decent enough to work with to find better spots then this, particularly to initiate the action.

You need to be a bit "gambly" given that it will be 1-2 hours before you even get to the better payoffs, but I think this spot is a frustrating fold.

compuease · Jul 30,2009, 09:51 AM

There are 2 factors I'm looking at here.

1/ the fact that this was an early position pusher, that's rarely a light push, unless I have some previous history..

2/ With antes it's much different for me. I like to be the pusher instead of caller. It doesn't take many uncalled pushes to really increase your stack, so be the pusher not the caller. Although the fact that you have 15BB is misleading since your cost per round is approx 27K so you don't have a lot of wiggle room. M<6