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Old Feb 05,2011, 01:08 AM   #1
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Easy fold?

I'm pretty sure this is a fold pre flop, but i'd like to hear your opinions.

Given the play, what do you on the flop? Note that it's a rush tourny and I obviously have no notes on anyone. Given the flop, I figure he's never bluffing.

Full Tilt Poker Game #27878488679: Turbo $3,500 Guarantee (Rush) (216465362), Table 170 - 250/500 Ante 50 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:21:54 ET - 2011/02/03
Seat 1: Taytaymababay (9,665)
Seat 2: ZhuKing (16,405)
Seat 3: FrankWhite42 (16,088)
Seat 4: _1JaJunk_ (19,835)
Seat 5: Balzs (14,638)
Seat 6: syphilaids (27,330)
Seat 7: THUGer (11,672)
Seat 8: tomwash67 (13,055)
Seat 9: DntMuckWitMe75 (32,868)
Taytaymababay antes 50
ZhuKing antes 50
FrankWhite42 antes 50
_1JaJunk_ antes 50
Balzs antes 50
syphilaids antes 50
THUGer antes 50
tomwash67 antes 50
DntMuckWitMe75 antes 50
ZhuKing posts the small blind of 250
FrankWhite42 posts the big blind of 500
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to syphilaids [Tc Ac]
_1JaJunk_ folds
Balzs raises to 1,500
syphilaids calls 1,500
THUGer folds
tomwash67 folds
DntMuckWitMe75 calls 1,500
Taytaymababay calls 1,500
ZhuKing folds
FrankWhite42 folds
*** FLOP *** [Th 8h 9d]
Balzs bets 13,088, and is all in
syphilaids has 15 seconds left to act
syphilaids ??
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Old Feb 05,2011, 11:40 AM   #2
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maybe he has 96s
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Old Feb 05,2011, 06:32 PM   #3
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using sklansky's gap concept ats is gonna be a fold pre......especially cause your gonna be up agaisn't ajs,aq,ak, jj,qq,kk mostly....most of the time your lucky to be drawing to 3 outs. you have position on him but there are many others to act, you'll have to fold to a re raise and be out of position to many callers.

here you got to see a flop.......and although he may be drawing you are crushed to many of his preflop hands .....just put on a range and itll be obvious.....
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Old Feb 06,2011, 09:43 AM   #4
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Way better spots to get it in here. tptk on that board to a shove = broken mouse from trying to fold so fast.
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Old Feb 16,2011, 02:21 AM   #5
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Fold sooo fast. Even vs. a complete spazz you have to fold just b/c there are 2 people left to act who have all different forms of the nuts in their range.

This is also a really easy fold pre. AQo is where it becomes close unless you have some very good reasons.
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