how much dead money makes a flush draw over straight worth it?

compuease · Dec 29,2009, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kristy_Sea

+1

is 73 kinda like what philli expresses to you?

darbday · Dec 30,2009, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wetts1012

Please stop talking about pot odds when talking about finite tournament life.

Stacking off with a 3 high flush draw is terrible here.

Didnt read the rest of the thread.

Probably not going to.

if i stopped i would never learn about things like finite tournament life, thx for that.....

so if you have the odds you might not push (nothing to do with this hand)?

darbday · Dec 30,2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by blackmagicz

You have to becareful when you play these lines. They don't make sense and most people will look you up with a single pair. There should already be an idea in your mind how you want to play the hand before you even see the flop or the action gets to you. There should be variables thought of as well

IE - do i want to rep a certain hand, what do i do if there is a raise/limp etc, what are the rest of the players doing at the table, how to they perceive me, have i just played a hand well, am I calling/raising/folding too much.

All this has to go into your thought process before you do something like this. To open shove with the lowest flush draw makes no sense on that board after 3 people have already started action before you.

i 'am not' playing suited connectors oop, i checked from the big blind and shoved the flop, position is irrelevant i think........but the rest i don't argue with.....

Wetts1012 · Dec 30,2009, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by darbday

so if you have the odds you might not push (nothing to do with this hand)?

I dont want this thread to go all tournament theory, but thats correct.

My tournament life is more important than me putting my money in 3 ways with a 30%er, regardless of the odds.

I also think you have much less than originally posted in BMZ's stove because hand 2 is definately not random. But back on topic.

Kristy_Sea · Dec 30,2009, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by compuease

is 73 kinda like what philli expresses to you?

no, philli expresses " 8==) " to me iirc.

philliivey · Dec 30,2009, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Kristy_Sea

no, philli expresses " 8==) " to me iirc.

HA! I think(that is good right Kristy

, now I have to learn this number language sigh)

blackmagicz · Dec 30,2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by darbday

i 'am not' playing suited connectors oop, i checked from the big blind and shoved the flop, position is irrelevant i think........but the rest i don't argue with.....

** Dealing Flop ** [ 8s, Td, Js ]
pokeface1983 checks
HERO checks
ubulka77 checks
KJprof checks
NSValleyMan checks
linda6365 bets [400]
mariomitica calls [400]
pokeface1983 calls [400]

That seems like you are playing suited connectors OOP? being the BB you are out of position unless you are heads up with SB? I also hope you are talking about position in being important in the revelance of your hand being a flush draw.

I mean in general terms "position" is your most powerful weapon, especially in a tournament.

Keep posting and we will keep assisting you when you want. (I know I still need it 95% of the time)

darbday · Dec 30,2009, 12:56 PM

nope i just mean its not a factor here in this hand, anyways we should end this silly thread.

Tilter · Jan 03,2010, 08:27 PM

The All-in is pretty meh. There is even a case for folding.

For sure when you go all-in, you're gonna get some callers where 9x hi will already be beating you. And there is a possibility that the better or one of the 2 callers has a larger flush draw.

The one thing you got going though is you'll be getting a very nice price by getting all their chips in if your flush draw is LIVE!

darbday · Jan 03,2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tilter

you'll be getting a very nice price by getting all their chips in if your flush draw is LIVE!

this was my actual question. and it turns out i created that situation against his top pair