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Old May 19,2011, 05:24 PM   #1
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icm spot...

Final table: Villain MrKlout has effectively opened shoved for the third time in a row here....i believe he has decided he will now run over the table and the tourney......

im guessing this is an icm fold....? but that i must call here...?

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Just based on how close the 4 of you are in chips, I think it's pretty meh between call/fold. Personally I am not folding here

How much overall has the villain been shoving?
Has he shown any hands?

With the payouts, I could SnGWizard it.
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Old May 19,2011, 05:37 PM   #4
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How much overall has the villain been shoving?
Has he shown any hands?
this can be best answered i think by the fact that villain is sitting 164 out of 1.2 million players this year....
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This should be an easy call for you I think, we need chips to make more money, and there's not even a less than 100k stack or something
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Old May 19,2011, 05:53 PM   #6
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this can be best answered i think by the fact that villain is sitting 164 out of 1.2 million players this year....
makes the call so much easier then.
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Old May 20,2011, 08:05 AM   #8
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This should be an easy call for you I think, we need chips to make more money
not arguing against the call but we don't need more chips to make more money, we could actually lose chips and still make more money.

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and there's not even a less than 100k stack or something
no but wait ten more hands though....
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makes the call so much easier then.
ya, but it doesn't tell me that its correct......
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With the payouts, I could SnGWizard it.
but you can't cap the top the of the oppenents range in wizard, i think he doesn't have aces or kings here...

something like,
77-JJ, ATo-AKo, A5s, A9s-Aks,JTs,QJS

prob a little tighter....maybe a little looser but aqo is the very bottom of my calling range,

i don't have the exact payouts but im guessing any program will say ako only.......but if you can't cap his range then its aces or kings only im guessing.....


is icm even real?
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but you can't cap the top the of the oppenents range in wizard, i think he doesn't have aces or kings here...

something like,
77-JJ, ATo-AKo, A5s, A9s-Aks,JTs,QJS

prob a little tighter....maybe a little looser but aqo is the very bottom of my calling range,

i don't have the exact payouts but im guessing any program will say ako only.......but if you can't cap his range then its aces or kings only im guessing.....


is icm even real?
I am snapping this off without thinking about it...but that's just me. I don't think you can lose here. His range is likely wider than you are giving him. I am also probably calling with AJ here, maybe A10. Go big or go home. Those other shorter stacks still have an M of 10. You keep folding these hands and you will be the shortie in no time and having to shove..but then again..you like that game..
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but you can't cap the top the of the oppenents range in wizard, i think he doesn't have aces or kings here...
You can exclude parts of his range, by clicking on the Call% number
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Old May 20,2011, 02:50 PM   #15
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I am snapping this off without thinking about it...


anyways, what wider hands would you put him on when im 18.5 bbs effective?
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