darbday

i think this is literally the first hand the villain has been at this table. so much i beat so much i lose too.....


PokerStars Game #48361799080: Tournament #300904964, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXX (5000/10000) - 2010/08/19 0:22:14 PT [2010/08/19 3:22:14 ET]
Table '300904964 188' 9-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: RE Rounder (540074 in chips)
Seat 2: piqapiq (235738 in chips)
Seat 4: ThisIsTheSea (224219 in chips)
Seat 5: 9atwater (186619 in chips)
Seat 6: --T--212-- (111582 in chips)
Seat 7: MTYardDog (565302 in chips)
Seat 8: forboon (256060 in chips)
Seat 9: younker (732911 in chips)
RE Rounder: posts the ante 1250
piqapiq: posts the ante 1250
ThisIsTheSea: posts the ante 1250
9atwater: posts the ante 1250
--T--212--: posts the ante 1250
MTYardDog: posts the ante 1250
forboon: posts the ante 1250
younker: posts the ante 1250
MTYardDog: posts small blind 5000
forboon: posts big blind 10000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to forboon [Qs Qd]
younker: raises 20000 to 30000
guera_1st is connected
RE Rounder: folds
piqapiq: folds
ThisIsTheSea: folds
9atwater: folds
--T--212--: folds
MTYardDog: folds
forboon: calls 20000
*** FLOP *** [Th Ts 7h]
forboon: checks
younker: bets 10000
forboon: calls 10000
*** TURN *** [Th Ts 7h] [8s]
forboon: bets 20000
younker: raises 671661 to 691661 and is all-in
forboon:


can i muster a call?

DrTyore

BAD BOY! BAD!! Raise this 10000% of the time!

A: You're in the BB, it looks like a defend / resteal
B: You don't know him, he don't know you
C: YOU HAVE FUCKING QQ!!

So, before I look past pre-flop, you deserve to lose this hand right now.

EDIT: I just realized this guy bet 1/7 of the pot? You need to re-pop here 100000% of the time, because he's going to let you find out nice and cheap (i.e. go to 40k, which should have been his bet first off, and you get information or the pot).

Now, to move on....

*** FLOP *** [Th Ts 7h]
forboon: checks
younker: bets 10000
forboon: calls 10000

Fuck that's bad - I don't care if you bet out or if you check / raise him, but this is the 2nd worst thing you can do - the worst being check / fold.

Onto the turn

*** TURN *** [Th Ts 7h] [8s]
forboon: bets 20000
younker: raises 671661 to 691661 and is all-in
forboon:

NOW you bet? And you bet THAT weak? There's now TWO flush draws, TWO MADE straights, and you have no clue what he has because you didn't push back at any point in this hand.

What's his range here for raising UTG? Well, considering we have NO information about a guy that just sat down, we can easily add in AA-JJ, AJs and up. It's a $2 tourney, so maybe he plays AT like this? Who knows? Maybe he's playing 99?

Poorly played hand.

Mark

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darbday

i know i know i know, and you could be even harsher because i know its true. preflop, but the reason i didn't raise is because i think 90% (made up stat to represent the word 'most') of the time he re shoves all in. So would you snap call the shove preflop?

philliivey

Am I correct in thinking ship er all in pre? If your going to repop your committed anyway, am I right?

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darbday

i think technically im not depending on the size i 're-pop' but this is another way of asking if we are calling if he shoves back...

djgolfcan

I would have re-raised it preflop to 80K, if he shoves, you call as you are only losing to two hands and a flip to one other. At this stage, QQ is the type of hand you are looking for to try and double up and make a deep run. Are you trying to win, or just cash ?

jdAA88

Don't mind the flop flat but I'd raise the flop and get it in

Wetts1012

raise pre.

raise flop.

Call now.

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darbday

raise...call shove preflop then right.....so your calling this all the way who cares about kk aa, the ak's out weigh them?

actyper

You gotta look at your stack size, at 25xbb theres no reason not for you to put in all your chips with QQ, especially pre.

darbday

what about jj?

Wetts1012

Yes. Getting it in pre.

Villain has to be virgin tight for you to range up at KK+,AK tho.

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philliivey

Kaching!!!

Guess I have not lost much of my mtt touch after all.

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syphilaids

Yeah like virgin tight over 10,000 hands where he never steals EVER in this spot. He can have KK and AA 12 ways. so there are 12 hands in what like, 1200 possible holdings? Ship it in.

You took a very easy hand to play and made it very difficult. Given the pot size I think you have to call here. GL.

syphilaids

JJ you should play even mroe aggressively then QQ as you'd like to buy the pot right now. I 3bet big (~100,000+) and call an AI.