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May 20,2010, 04:10 PM
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#1 | | Full PFC Member
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18 man sit n go, heads up
Would you reshove 17 bb here, or I had or have a feeling of just shoving 1st? blinds were about to go up in about 2 minutes to 400/800, usual donktard betting big when he had crap and he could have had anything.
I figured to catch this guy I was going to have to "race" and this was about as good as a time
***** Hand History for Game 44375812614 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Thursday, May 20, 03:30:01 ET 2010
Table 274815105 2 (Real Money)
Seat 4 is the button
Seat 3: behnur007 ( $16354.00 USD )
Seat 4: PHILLIIVEY1 ( $10646.00 USD )
behnur007 posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
PHILLIIVEY1 posts ante of [$50.00 USD].
PHILLIIVEY1 posts small blind [$300.00 USD].
behnur007 posts big blind [$600.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PHILLIIVEY1 [ Ac Tc ]
PHILLIIVEY1 raises [$1500.00 USD]
behnur007 raises [$15704.00 USD]  ??
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May 20,2010, 04:33 PM
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#2 | | Local Celebrity |
Not ever folding here. Your +EV vs. Ax, any pair. It gets wider if you include KQ etc.
Open shoving is game specific, but I doubt its optimal. It folds out alot of hands that are going to shove if you open raise.
I likely 2.5-3x to induce.
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May 20,2010, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Wetts1012  Not ever folding here. Your +EV vs. Ax, any pair. It gets wider if you include KQ etc.
Open shoving is game specific, but I doubt its optimal. It folds out alot of hands that are going to shove if you open raise.
I likely 2.5-3x to induce. |
perfect! Thanks 
I will post the rest of the hand, See if there is any more reply's first. | |
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May 20,2010, 04:56 PM
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Maybe a bit more context would help - how long have you been HU? What is your raise %, his 3-bet frequency. With the said, 4-bet getting this all-in won't be the worse play in the world, but I'm definitely not a big fan of the open shove.
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May 20,2010, 05:24 PM
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#5 | | Inhumano Forboon! |
i would like to see the flop cheaply to see if i can't actually draw the nut. my heads up needs work for sure though.
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May 20,2010, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by westside8 Maybe a bit more context would help - how long have you been HU? What is your raise %, his 3-bet frequency. With the said, 4-bet getting this all-in won't be the worse play in the world, but I'm definitely not a big fan of the open shove. |
my raise % was about 8, his 3 bet % was 18.
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May 20,2010, 07:54 PM
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Here is the rest of the hand, sigh can't win a fucking race to save my life, ace, ten, club does not come,this goes for tonight as well, partly why I am in a bad mood right now 
PHILLIIVEY1 calls [$8796.00 USD]
behnur007 wins $5708.00 USD
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, Kh, 9h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2c ]
** Dealing River ** [ Qd ]
behnur007 shows [8c, 8d ]
PHILLIIVEY1 shows [Ac, Tc ]
behnur007 wins $21292.00 USD from main pot
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May 20,2010, 11:15 PM
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#8 | | 1 of 180 | Quote:
Originally Posted by darbday i would like to see the flop cheaply to see if i can't actually draw the nut. my heads up needs work for sure though. | Not when both of you are <20BB in a SnG...
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May 21,2010, 09:46 AM
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I am happy with the 2nd as I was 6/6 with under 1k in chips and recouped my losing streak to get back to even, just a bad night overall including outside of poker,lol
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May 21,2010, 12:18 PM
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#10 | | comma man
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ez shove
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May 22,2010, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by philliivey Here is the rest of the hand, sigh can't win a fucking race to save my life, ace, ten, club does not come,this goes for tonight as well, partly why I am in a bad mood right now | Don't forget the K's are outs too! Also running J's and Q's, which we can count as approx. 1 out. Hope it makes you feel better to miss an 19 outter instead of a 15 outter FTL.
Good ship though.
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May 22,2010, 05:18 PM
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well, thank god I posted this as the same situation came up today, so remembered what wetts said(westside too!) and it worked out this time, the guy was like a 8-1 chip leader and in like 5 hands I came back and took er down for a 1st! | |
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Jul 25,2010, 12:16 AM
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fold your hand
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