Bad shove or best way to get only one caller?

Cerberus · Mar 13,2011, 10:41 PM

PokerStars Game #59169005101: Tournament #411011157, $2.00+$0.20 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level III (25/50) - 2011/03/13 23:30:07 ET
Table '411011157 84' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ayrisha (1440 in chips)
Seat 2: OMIJIMO2272 (4035 in chips)
Seat 3: clownboxer1 (3455 in chips)
Seat 4: McAusland (3245 in chips)
Seat 5: Max Rage (1920 in chips)
Seat 6: 58848kljhaj; (3575 in chips)
Seat 7: timlovestiff (2115 in chips)
Seat 8: areuthefish (745 in chips)
Seat 9: thepolarcub (570 in chips)
Max Rage: posts small blind 25
58848kljhaj;: posts big blind 50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to McAusland [Qh Qs]
timlovestiff: folds
areuthefish: calls 50
thepolarcub: calls 50
ayrisha: folds
OMIJIMO2272: calls 50
clownboxer1: calls 50
McAusland: raises 3195 to 3245 and is all-in
Max Rage: folds
58848kljhaj;: folds
areuthefish: folds
thepolarcub: folds
OMIJIMO2272: folds
clownboxer1: folds
Uncalled bet (3195) returned to McAusland
McAusland collected 325 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 325 | Rake 0
Seat 1: ayrisha folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: OMIJIMO2272 folded before Flop
Seat 3: clownboxer1 folded before Flop
Seat 4: McAusland (button) collected (325)
Seat 5: Max Rage (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 6: 58848kljhaj; (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: timlovestiff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: areuthefish folded before Flop
Seat 9: thepolarcub folded before Flop

Did this due to A- number of limpers B- number of short stacks that limped in C- buyin of tourney. All that seemed to make my brain say "Shove and one of them HAS to call you!"

darbday · Mar 13,2011, 11:20 PM

No I don't think this is a good thing. Table ninja sets up your bet to 3x + 1 for each limper....thats 375 i think, or whatever it is. Thats a good start and it keep you consistent through your play. It also makes the decision for you, sometimes I'll change the bet a little maybe 425 so most of the time there won't be multiple callers. After that I'll get it in on the flop if theres no a or k, and sometimes slowplay and get it in anyways.

Just don't fear the flop, you need to gain chips with this hand by hopefully having a weak play call. Sometimes they'll all call and youll flop a set.

CdnVet0506 · Mar 13,2011, 11:21 PM

I'm surprised no one called you. At the lower buy-ins SNGs ($1-$10) I have have found this to be a legit and effective tactic in those circumstances and will usually get 1-2 callers (for whatever reason) with weak Aces or K something.... (naturally I wouldn't recommend it in a MTT or against better players...., but I think most here would get that :-)

Milo · Mar 14,2011, 07:28 AM

That's what you get for ducking out on the Missus to play poker . . .

Richard~ · Mar 14,2011, 09:39 AM

Raise normally to get value, this seems silly, we don't hate 2 or 3 callers

syphilaids · Mar 14,2011, 02:42 PM

At these stakes, players really really want to see a flop. They don't really care about odds, they just want to try and catch a piece of it. They don't want to play for all of their chips unless they have a real hand, so unless they have something like 55+ or AT+ you're rarely getting a caller (this is often the top of limpers' ranges).

I would stick in a large raise here, something like 400 like darbday said, and watch you get 3 callers. But that's kind of what we want, build a nice pot with the best hand. Just proceed with caution on the flop, never slow play but don't cbet light.