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Old Jan 12,2011, 06:00 PM   #1
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Interesting River Card...

What to do?

PokerStars Game #55825230419: Tournament #402010743, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VI (40/80) - 2011/01/12 18:54:52 ET
Table '402010743 119' 9-max Seat #2 is the button
Seat 1: McAusland (15390 in chips)
Seat 2: mfcabreu (5945 in chips)
Seat 3: KracKz (6560 in chips)
Seat 4: chocolat999 (14100 in chips)
Seat 5: Fatman_1977 (6120 in chips)
Seat 6: manucbr (2920 in chips)
Seat 7: Big DWW26 (4480 in chips)
Seat 8: nozzor (2665 in chips)
Seat 9: diegocle (7020 in chips)
KracKz: posts small blind 40
chocolat999: posts big blind 80
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to McAusland [Tc Jd]
Fatman_1977: folds
manucbr: calls 80
Big DWW26: folds
nozzor: folds
diegocle: folds
McAusland: calls 80
mfcabreu: calls 80
KracKz: calls 40
chocolat999: checks
*** FLOP *** [3h 9d Kh]
KracKz: bets 80
chocolat999: calls 80
manucbr: folds
McAusland: calls 80
mfcabreu: calls 80
*** TURN *** [3h 9d Kh] [Qc]
KracKz: bets 240
chocolat999: calls 240
McAusland: raises 510 to 750
mfcabreu: calls 750
KracKz: calls 510
chocolat999: calls 510
*** RIVER *** [3h 9d Kh Qc] [5h]
KracKz: bets 5650 and is all-in
chocolat999: folds
McAusland:

With this many players in the hand that check called the turn, can I actually be winning this hand? Still one player to act too. So, thoughts?

McAusland: folds
mfcabreu: calls 5035 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (615) returned to KracKz
McAusland said, "nice river sir. gh."
*** SHOW DOWN ***
KracKz: shows [Ah 4h] (a flush, Ace high)
mfcabreu: shows [Qd 3d] (two pair, Queens and Threes)
KracKz collected 13790 from pot
mfcabreu finished the tournament in 3370th place
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*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 13790 | Rake 0
Board [3h 9d Kh Qc 5h]
Seat 1: McAusland folded on the River
Seat 2: mfcabreu (button) showed [Qd 3d] and lost with two pair, Queens and Threes
Seat 3: KracKz (small blind) showed [Ah 4h] and won (13790) with a flush, Ace high
Seat 4: chocolat999 (big blind) folded on the River
Seat 5: Fatman_1977 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: manucbr folded on the Flop
Seat 7: Big DWW26 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: nozzor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: diegocle folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Old Jan 12,2011, 06:14 PM   #2
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Umm...fold? Clearly on the flush draw.

In super low limit games they donkeys always jam with the nuts.

EDIT: Yeah, easy fold. Somebody has you beat. Also, add macabre to your friends list.
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Old Jan 12,2011, 06:23 PM   #3
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You couldn't have told me this before this happened could you...

PokerStars Game #55826209826: Tournament #402010743, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2011/01/12 19:15:56 ET
Table '402010743 119' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: McAusland (19990 in chips)
Seat 2: baobny (3900 in chips)
Seat 3: KracKz (11995 in chips)
Seat 4: chocolat999 (12130 in chips)
Seat 5: pasko1963 (5140 in chips)
Seat 6: manucbr (4990 in chips)
Seat 7: Big DWW26 (5010 in chips)
Seat 8: nozzor (3255 in chips)
Seat 9: diegocle (7110 in chips)
McAusland: posts the ante 10
baobny: posts the ante 10
KracKz: posts the ante 10
chocolat999: posts the ante 10
pasko1963: posts the ante 10
manucbr: posts the ante 10
Big DWW26: posts the ante 10
nozzor: posts the ante 10
diegocle: posts the ante 10
McAusland: posts small blind 50
baobny: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to McAusland [2d 3s]
KracKz: folds
chocolat999: calls 100
pasko1963: folds
manucbr: folds
Big DWW26: calls 100
nozzor: folds
diegocle: calls 100
McAusland: calls 50
baobny: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d Ac 5h]
McAusland: bets 800
baobny: folds
chocolat999: calls 800
Big DWW26: folds
diegocle: calls 800
*** TURN *** [4d Ac 5h] [4c]
McAusland: bets 100
chocolat999: raises 300 to 400
diegocle: calls 400
McAusland: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [4d Ac 5h 4c] [Kh]
McAusland: bets 1000
chocolat999: raises 9820 to 10820 and is all-in
diegocle: calls 5800 and is all-in
McAusland: calls 9820
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chocolat999: shows [4s 4h] (four of a kind, Fours)
McAusland: shows [2d 3s] (a straight, Ace to Five)
chocolat999 collected 10040 from side pot
diegocle: shows [Ah 9s] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
chocolat999 collected 21590 from main pot
diegocle finished the tournament in 2913th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 31630 Main pot 21590. Side pot 10040. | Rake 0
Board [4d Ac 5h 4c Kh]
Seat 1: McAusland (small blind) showed [2d 3s] and lost with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 2: baobny (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: KracKz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: chocolat999 showed [4s 4h] and won (31630) with four of a kind, Fours
Seat 5: pasko1963 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: manucbr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Big DWW26 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: nozzor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: diegocle (button) showed [Ah 9s] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fours
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Old Jan 12,2011, 08:04 PM   #4
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I don't know if it's me but 4's seem to come in Quads when they are against me.
Seriously I am folding here. Regardless of what anyone says.

I would be suspicious of the boat here too. Buddy could have played A-4
K-4 or dragged his Aces and roped you all in. Anything is possible now.
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Old Jan 12,2011, 08:24 PM   #5
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Hopefully you can see this. Having trouble with posting hands from my email.
Final 3 of PStars .55 micromania. Thought this may be a HAIL MARY atf

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Old Jan 12,2011, 08:27 PM   #6
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Old Jan 13,2011, 05:09 AM   #7
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You couldn't have told me this before this happened could you...

PokerStars Game #55826209826: Tournament #402010743, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (50/100) - 2011/01/12 19:15:56 ET
Table '402010743 119' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: McAusland (19990 in chips)
Seat 2: baobny (3900 in chips)
Seat 3: KracKz (11995 in chips)
Seat 4: chocolat999 (12130 in chips)
Seat 5: pasko1963 (5140 in chips)
Seat 6: manucbr (4990 in chips)
Seat 7: Big DWW26 (5010 in chips)
Seat 8: nozzor (3255 in chips)
Seat 9: diegocle (7110 in chips)
McAusland: posts the ante 10
baobny: posts the ante 10
KracKz: posts the ante 10
chocolat999: posts the ante 10
pasko1963: posts the ante 10
manucbr: posts the ante 10
Big DWW26: posts the ante 10
nozzor: posts the ante 10
diegocle: posts the ante 10
McAusland: posts small blind 50
baobny: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to McAusland [2d 3s]
KracKz: folds
chocolat999: calls 100
pasko1963: folds
manucbr: folds
Big DWW26: calls 100
nozzor: folds
diegocle: calls 100
McAusland: calls 50
baobny: checks
*** FLOP *** [4d Ac 5h]
McAusland: bets 800
baobny: folds
chocolat999: calls 800
Big DWW26: folds
diegocle: calls 800
*** TURN *** [4d Ac 5h] [4c]
McAusland: bets 100
chocolat999: raises 300 to 400
diegocle: calls 400
McAusland: calls 300
*** RIVER *** [4d Ac 5h 4c] [Kh]
McAusland: bets 1000
chocolat999: raises 9820 to 10820 and is all-in
diegocle: calls 5800 and is all-in
McAusland: calls 9820
*** SHOW DOWN ***
chocolat999: shows [4s 4h] (four of a kind, Fours)
McAusland: shows [2d 3s] (a straight, Ace to Five)
chocolat999 collected 10040 from side pot
diegocle: shows [Ah 9s] (two pair, Aces and Fours)
chocolat999 collected 21590 from main pot
diegocle finished the tournament in 2913th place
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 31630 Main pot 21590. Side pot 10040. | Rake 0
Board [4d Ac 5h 4c Kh]
Seat 1: McAusland (small blind) showed [2d 3s] and lost with a straight, Ace to Five
Seat 2: baobny (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: KracKz folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: chocolat999 showed [4s 4h] and won (31630) with four of a kind, Fours
Seat 5: pasko1963 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: manucbr folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Big DWW26 folded on the Flop
Seat 8: nozzor folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: diegocle (button) showed [Ah 9s] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fours
Weak bet on the turn, his raise should set off warning bells. Then again, he over-jams the river, telling you that YOU ARE BEHIND.
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Old Jan 13,2011, 10:25 AM   #8
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What to do?

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to McAusland [Tc Jd]
Fatman_1977: folds
manucbr: calls 80
Big DWW26: folds
nozzor: folds
diegocle: folds
McAusland: calls 80
mfcabreu: calls 80
KracKz: calls 40
chocolat999: checks

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Limping this hand preflop is a leak, calling the flop bet, regardless of how small is an even bigger leak.

Why? You got exactly the turn card you wanted and ended up folding the hand.

If you're going to play this hand praying for the miracle queen you must be committed to getting it in on the river.
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Old Jan 13,2011, 10:55 AM   #9
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I think I see the points you're making Wetts. Thanks! Appreciate the help
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Fold pre, fold the flop (esp. because it has hearts so u have only 3 nut outs) but flop peel is not horrible, raise more on the turn (1100 or so sounds about right), def. fold the flop when he jams into 4 guys for a huge bet.
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