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Jul 21,2011, 08:51 PM
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#1 | | Full PFC Member | Live 2 Table SNG. J High Flush Vs. Top Set.
New to Posting hands!! Hopefully I Describe this right
I was playing a two table NLH SNG earlier. I was playing good, then got coolered a couple times to dwindle my stack to 14k when this hand happened.
Final Table, Blinds were 400/800, no ante
UTG(15k) - Calls
Seat 6(10k) - Calls Me J/10 Clubs(14k) - Calls
I decide to call because the way the game had played to this point, my knowledge of my players is very high and I think I can double up if I hit hard.(my opponents over value their hands very often)
Seat 8(9k) - Folds
Seat 9(18k) - Folds
Seat 1(8k) - Calls
Button (32k) - Calls
SB(30k) - Calls
BB(25k) - Checks
The flop comes down 3,5,2 all clubs. Pot:4800
Action after the flop.
UTG(15k) - Check
Seat 6(10k) - Check Me J/10 Clubs(14k) - Bet 3k
Seat 1(8k) - All In(with some hesitation)
Button (32k) - Fold
SB(30k) - Fold
BB(25k) - Fold
Then....
UTG(15k) - Fold
Seat 6(10k) - Fold Me J/10 Clubs(14k) - Call
I call Figuring I could have been coolered again, however I am pot commited at this point. So we open up... I show the jack high flush and he opens up a set a fives. The turn comes ten of diamonds and the river comes a dreadful deuce of hearts. so he doubles up and I`m left short stacked!!
So my Question is... Did my opponent make a bad move going allin when he knows that I probably have the flush there or should he waited for a better spot since he had only 800 invested?
Me and him are good friends, so i ask him thoughts on the hand and he said ``I thought about waiting one more card and then jamming, but when you bet i assumed you had the flush and thought, well with my stack I can`t fold``
Last edited by RWPKRPLR; Jul 21,2011 at 09:10 PM.
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Jul 21,2011, 09:33 PM
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#2 | | Inhumano Forboon! |
no he didn't make a mistake, he has a set and a redraw to a full house... you could have overs with one club or two pair or something. anyways shove or fold pre..you don't hit this flop often enough to profit.
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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.
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Jul 21,2011, 11:27 PM
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#3 | | Banned
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yeah, what yoda batman said pretty much
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Jul 22,2011, 12:07 AM
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#4 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by gettin daize yeah, what yoda batman said pretty much | pretty much...?
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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.
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Jul 22,2011, 12:16 AM
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#5 | | Full PFC Member |
fold pre, as played, on one is ever folding top set with that stack and all the dead money in the middle.
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When the money is gone, its time to move on!!
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Jul 22,2011, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by darbday pretty much...?  | lollllllllllllll
its unclear if villian had a BDFD with bet sizing and stacks but he might have had a re draw to the nuts on top of his set, and in which case ur effed. next time, try quadruple set mining in order to get it in good on the river.
gg hero.
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Jul 22,2011, 10:58 AM
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#7 | | Full PFC Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by darbday no he didn't make a mistake, he has a set and a redraw to a full house... you could have overs with one club or two pair or something. anyways shove or fold pre..you don't hit this flop often enough to profit. | Great reply!! so i'm unclear about the shove or fold pre. me or him? I wouldn't cause i'm only getting called by a better hand there. we also came to the conclusion that it wasn't a mistake after the flop. Then he ask me what i might of done differently, I said I might of shoved pre flop cause of the three weak limps in early position to give myself 2 ways to win.( Take it down preflop with no callers or win a coin flip if I get called with two overs.)
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Jul 22,2011, 11:02 AM
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#8 | | Full PFC Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by gettin daize lollllllllllllll
its unclear if villian had a BDFD with bet sizing and stacks but he might have had a re draw to the nuts on top of his set, and in which case ur effed. next time, try quadruple set mining in order to get it in good on the river.
gg hero. | new to the forum lingo... what does BDFD mean? lol
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Jul 22,2011, 11:31 AM
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#9 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by RWPKRPLR Great reply!! so i'm unclear about the shove or fold pre. me or him? | no were talking about you...it has nothing to do with your cards....even before you look at your cards ....with 2 limpers you don't have enough chips to play poker you must shove or fold.
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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.
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Jul 22,2011, 11:59 AM
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#10 | | Full PFC Member |
With that point being said your absolutely right. Next time I'm in a situation like that I will think it through a little more before acting. What would you of done preflop if you were the player with the pocket fives and three early position limpers?
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Jul 22,2011, 12:16 PM
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#11 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by RWPKRPLR With that point being said your absolutely right. Next time I'm in a situation like that I will think it through a little more before acting. What would you of done preflop if you were the player with the pocket fives and three early position limpers? | it becomes obvious since hes shorter than you he needs to jam or fold to, prob fold.
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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.
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Jul 22,2011, 12:29 PM
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#12 | | Full PFC Member |
thanks for your input.
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Jul 22,2011, 12:31 PM
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#13 | | Inhumano Forboon! | Quote:
Originally Posted by RWPKRPLR thanks for your input. | stay for the wings
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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.
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Jul 22,2011, 01:00 PM
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#14 | | Full PFC Member |
lol  ?
Last edited by RWPKRPLR; Jul 22,2011 at 01:20 PM.
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Jul 22,2011, 06:17 PM
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I agree with fold or ship pre. Depends on how UTG's been playing and how likely he is to have limped with a monster. If I've seen them limp with weak hands, I'd just move it in.
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