betrthanphil

kk this guy is most active preflop but had been folding a lot to aggression which was reason for 3 bet from sb. I had been really tight for like an hour and a half. 3 bet him once before with no resistance.

PokerStars Game #64823910615: Tournament #430010503, $100+$9 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (200/400) - 2011/07/20 14:47:24 ET
Table '430010503 19' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: G's zee (20995 in chips)
Seat 2: agaspeed (32149 in chips)
Seat 3: Arnie_D (12370 in chips)
Seat 4: BetrThanPhil (18213 in chips)
Seat 5: Djelly (29106 in chips)
Seat 6: allucan3at (24218 in chips)
Seat 7: JIZOINT (14394 in chips)
Seat 8: ramondemon77 (25396 in chips)
Seat 9: Pipedream17 (12881 in chips)
G's zee: posts the ante 40
agaspeed: posts the ante 40
Arnie_D: posts the ante 40
BetrThanPhil: posts the ante 40
Djelly: posts the ante 40
allucan3at: posts the ante 40
JIZOINT: posts the ante 40
ramondemon77: posts the ante 40
Pipedream17: posts the ante 40
BetrThanPhil: posts small blind 200
Djelly: posts big blind 400
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to BetrThanPhil [Jc 9c]
allucan3at: folds
JIZOINT: folds
ramondemon77: folds
Pipedream17: raises 510 to 910
G's zee: folds
agaspeed: folds
Arnie_D: folds
BetrThanPhil: raises 1324 to 2234
Djelly: folds
Pipedream17: calls 1324
*** FLOP *** [Th 6h 8c]
BetrThanPhil: bets 1898
Pipedream17: raises 8709 to 10607 and is all-in
BetrThanPhil:?

is this a call or fold as played? Should I have bet more because of stack sizes to make myself more commited to a shove, should I 3 bet more pre because Im out of position?

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darbday

wow thats a spot....i think as played fold, i wonder if we want to set up or flop bet for a turn shove...can't call here though i think, might be reverse implied odds vs his flush draws too

sheesh...guy ships a 1k at the V and asks for my advice

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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.

betrthanphil

always room to learn, moment you stop trying to learn is the moment you fall behind

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darbday

i already knew that...

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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.

djgolfcan

At this stage of the tourney there is no point in gambling. You still have 40 BBs. I cannot imagine that if you hit a Jack, it would be good so you only have 8 outs and may be only have 6, as he may have a heart draw.

Another thing you mentioned was that he folded to aggression previously and this time he did not and in fact, has shown great strength. He really likes his hand and you are going to need to get lucky to win this one, not worth it.