Should I Have Called?

philliivey · Jan 16,2010, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by westside8

I think I fold here. Didn't read the rest of the thread, but here are a couple of reasons (off the top of my head) why I would fold.

1. Original raiser has >10bb, which leads to...
2. Big stack isn't calling "because he has to because he had odds" or "i was in the blind",
3. From the previous points, big stack here still has to showdown, hence why his range here is probably not that wide.
4. While you might be ahead of most of his iso range, consider not only your cEV, but your $EV in this case would make it a fold

what the heck does those mean in the bold anyway?

Tilter · Jan 17,2010, 04:20 AM

This is when I like HUD.

If Rackattack has shown to be able to push/fold then he'll have a wide button shoving range. A button shoving range of top 70% of hands on a 10BB stack will be profitable vs any reasonable calling range.

SB could be iso'ing a reasonable range of 66/77+, A8ss+, ATo+ KJss+ KQo, and sometime SB will flat AA/KK trying to set a trap to get your to come along.

JJ being a top 4 hand, and 180 man being super top heavy payout (54 x buyins to first, while barely doubling buy-in if you mini-cash), I think this would be a great spot to get a huge stack and destroy the final table bubble. Chipping up on the final table bubble is just beautiful when you can contiously raise 2.3x and take blinds after blinds without much resistance.

Tilter · Jan 17,2010, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by philliivey

what the heck does those mean in the bold anyway?

CEV = Chip Expected Value (refers to face value of will you gain chips from this)
$EV = Money Expected Value (refers to ICM Payouts)