philliivey

what do you use more to put a opponent on a hand range, vpip or pfr? for let's say if he goes all in.

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BlondeFish

If he goes all-in, then Page Ranking would be more relevant than VP. If his PR is 5%, then his all-in range would be a lot less. There is a good discussion of these stats in Killer Tournament Poker by the Numbers.

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ReefAquarium

I use his pfr if I don't have his all in stats.

What's page ranking?

Is all in by the numbers any good.
I have killer poker and killer poker online and they both suck.

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Monteroy

The stack sizes and tournament structure (if a tournament) are kind of important factors.


In cash games I give a lot of credit to 3/0 guys when they reraise preflop

BlondeFish

The silly forum software still auto converts the two-letter short form for "Preflop Raise %" to "Page Ranking".
Killer Tournament Poker seemed to have good topics for poker math geeks (including tracking software, ICM and making deals), but as usual, I can't find the time to read them.

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PokerKai

Definitely PFR.

Go download pokerstove and mess around with those hand ranges.

philliivey

thank you pokerkai, that is what i am doing, already had pokerstove and was experimenting with it when in a game when i am out of a hand so i have been doing it right.

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