darbday

see how jupiter is next to mars......

Full Tilt Poker Game #22914188925: $2 + $0.20 Tournament (176811616), Table 38 - 1200/2400 Ante 300 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:04:12 ET - 2010/08/07
Seat 2: forboon (24,702)
Seat 3: Shamrocker09 (19,992)
Seat 4: princessp829 (121,942)
Seat 5: gapagapa (67,627)
Seat 6: Jupiter1612 (153,144)
Seat 7: Eddie Mars (154,264)
Seat 8: vino pokerchamp (78,772)
Seat 9: aj3433 (25,378)

you gotta look for stuff like that....and then theres the orbit and the button is the moon and forboon is the earth......

this is advanced poker.

philliivey

You are one of the small stack's, you have 10bb's, answer is shove.

darbday

only when the moons align...

philliivey

This is true in a way.

darbday

now we're getting somewhere

philliivey

Are you going to make a video 1 day?

darbday

lol....i think we should alll make videos.

philliivey

So should be looking for something like this.......


***** Hand History for Game 58810818870 ***** (Poker Stars)
Tourney Hand NL Texas Hold'em - Monday, March 07, 11:30:37 ET 2011
Table 372346312 2 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Seat 1: jorges79 ( $3930.00 USD )
Seat 2: gorets540 ( $2625.00 USD )
Seat 4: legik73 ( $1515.00 USD )
Seat 5: PHILLIIVEY1 ( $1455.00 USD )
Seat 6: festeban1978 ( $1360.00 USD )
Seat 7: kist11 ( $2160.00 USD )
Seat 8: IDON11 ( $255.00 USD )
Seat 9: DaGraTo ( $530.00 USD )
festeban1978 posts small blind [$25.00 USD].
kist11 posts big blind [$50.00 USD].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to PHILLIIVEY1 [ Th Tc ]
IDON11 folds
DaGraTo folds
jorges79 calls [$50.00 USD]
gorets540 calls [$50.00 USD]
legik73 folds
PHILLIIVEY1 raises [$170.00 USD] good bet size?
festeban1978 folds
kist11 folds
jorges79 calls [$120.00 USD]
gorets540 calls [$120.00 USD]
** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, 3s, Ah ]
jorges79 checks
gorets540 checks
PHILLIIVEY1 checks
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8c ]
jorges79 bets [$200.00 USD] your a "gambler" who has a high aggression factor, you limped pre so I don't think you have a ace
gorets540 folds
PHILLIIVEY1 calls [$200.00 USD]
** Dealing River ** [ 9c ]
jorges79 bets [$200.00 USD]
PHILLIIVEY1 calls [$200.00 USD] ok to just call here? or try and get more value, he had a vpip so a ace rag is possible even though I have a feeling he does not have a ace as he would have bet the flop.

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AIPF

ship it PF........

philliivey

oooops, forgot to mention it is a 18 man sit n go, or maybe it does not matter

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AIPF

18 man is even more a reason to jam against yoda... he'll ship with q,9s,,,,,,,

Wetts1012

No. Iso shoving 30bb here is bad.

Philli-

You put an explanation beside your reasoning for betting the turn. If you really believe that why arent you betting the flop.

Bet flop -> Give up turn.

As played I prob call river. There is no value in raising.

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Wetts1012

Uranus?

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darbday

close to

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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.

darbday

my raise size here is 3x + 1 for each limper......i actually raise 2.2 or so but without antes closer to the former. so that's more like 150 + 100 = 250. but i don't wanna put in such a big bet with tt because when i get callers (which limpy fishies will do), the flop will be hard to play with any over cards (which will always happen), a few callers (which they will likely call), and a good chunk of my stack in.

I'll consider set mining, so limping with the other two, but only if i don't think anyone behind is bound to raise, which is quite likely here depending on the play that anyone behind will limp and not raise. Basically if your gonna raise you gotta be quite sure you only gonna get one or two callers here, but hopefully only one.

Sometimes at a weak table ill raise like 110, and fold to a re raise. Most of the time we can isolate the same way but still only set mine and not feel bad about folding to an ace on the flop. Its not standard at all but these players will let you do it. Your not raising for value or aggression that way, but just to discourage others from raising after your in the pot, if they do you gotta think they have better than tt, or at least ak.

Anyways after you raise pre like you did, a small probe bet like less than half the pot will look like you have a strong ace and are trying to suck others into the pot. If you had an ace you would bet bigger because there is a flush draw, but here you can make a cheap bluff. They will very likely fold with out an ace or a flush draw, and a flush draw will check any non heart turn and river. That's all the chips i would put in this pot.

We never have a 'feeling' that they don't have an ace, vekked drilled that in my head in another thread, however many aces there are in their range is the % of time they have one, and limping in with aces is a fishes game.

Cliff notes: strive to play TT either heads up or as a set mine....

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I think I'll just get it in bad here and chalk it up to variance.