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May 05,2008, 12:42 PM
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#46 | | #bonking
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Originally Posted by pokerJAH now wasn't that easy without all the additional commentary.
I will make a note of this for future reference. Next time I get AA in middle position in a SNG with a couple of limpers, must raise to more than 4x BB. This should do wonders for my ROI.
btw, as an experienced cash game player, what would you recommend in a $1/$2 cash game in the same situation? | It completely depends on the table and what the standard raises have been and how many callers each raise has been getting. Is there a specific player that you are targetting, etc. There is much more variation in this live than online. I'm not sure if you're referring to a live or online 1/2 game?
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May 05,2008, 12:57 PM
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#47 | | Official Poker***** Troll
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The stupidity in this thread is tilting me. I'm going away to beat the hell out of myself.
To the people in this thread who have a brain. See you in another thread.
To the rest of you. Pleas get one.
To Pantsonfire. Your avatar makes me LOL
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May 05,2008, 01:21 PM
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#48 | | Looking for a coach
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The ignore this user option is a wonderful thing.
It keeps blood pressure low, reduces tilt and gets you kinky BDSM dates!
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May 05,2008, 01:24 PM
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#49 | | Forum Troll - Admin Style | Quote:
Originally Posted by pokerJAH Is it really necessary to raise enough to isolate to one other player? I know this is what the books tell us, but is this what poker has become?? A game of predictable moves. | Go ahead and raise to 90 and play this hand against 6 players..and you are playing a $7.50 buy in SnG. ABC Poker goes a long way
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May 05,2008, 02:14 PM
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#50 | | Cash games are evil!
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker It completely depends on the table and what the standard raises have been and how many callers each raise has been getting. Is there a specific player that you are targetting, etc. There is much more variation in this live than online. I'm not sure if you're referring to a live or online 1/2 game? | Exactly, so if the table will fold to a 4xbb raise, 120 raise is the bomb. I only play live these days, so 1/2 live.
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May 05,2008, 02:20 PM
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#51 | | Cash games are evil!
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Originally Posted by westside8 Go ahead and raise to 90 and play this hand against 6 players..and you are playing a $7.50 buy in SnG. ABC Poker goes a long way | I think this guy wants sound advice based on the situation. If we are giving buy-in specific advice, then why not push with any ace and move on the next SNG? Apparently there is the right way and the 'jah' way on this site. No other forum members see nothing wrong with raising 4x the bb, irrespective of the buy-in? Too many sheep in the herd I guess.
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May 05,2008, 02:26 PM
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#52 | | PWNed Johnny Chan
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Originally Posted by pokerJAH I think this guy wants sound advice based on the situation. If we are giving buy-in specific advice, then why not push with any ace and move on the next SNG? Apparently there is the right way and the 'jah' way on this site. No other forum members see nothing wrong with raising 4x the bb, irrespective of the buy-in? Too many sheep in the herd I guess. | As the OP in this thread, I can say that I have a huge problem with a 4x BB raise, as I think it accomplishes nothing but creating a huge pot for me to battle against 5 other hands with.
As GTA said, if I am opening the pot 3 to 4x is standard. With three people limped already plus the big blind, raising 4 times the blind is silly(he may have actually said stupid, I don't recall).
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May 05,2008, 02:27 PM
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#53 | | #bonking
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Originally Posted by pokerJAH Exactly, so if the table will fold to a 4xbb raise, 120 raise is the bomb. I only play live these days, so 1/2 live. | I give up, you can't even keep track of which examples you are using for which games and you contradict yourself in 80% of your posts. GL with your game.
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May 05,2008, 03:03 PM
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#54 | | CPF non-dirty whore
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker I give up | Thanks for trying GTA. It was entertaining to watch
/g2
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May 05,2008, 05:09 PM
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#55 | | Cash games are evil!
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Originally Posted by GTA Poker I give up, you can't even keep track of which examples you are using for which games and you contradict yourself in 80% of your posts. GL with your game. | I was referring to your previous post that noted you only played live cash games. So I thought you would comment on this example in a cash game situation. Seems fair to me.
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May 05,2008, 07:49 PM
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#56 | | PWNed Johnny Chan
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Originally Posted by pokerJAH I was referring to your previous post that noted you only played live cash games. So I thought you would comment on this example in a cash game situation. Seems fair to me. | Imagine, Kristy thought there would be very little to discuss in this thread.
Can I, as this threads creator, recommend that it be either stickied so we can all LOL at it for months to come.
OR
Order it cast into oblivion.
My question was simply regarding the optimal strategy for playing in this situation. I think a few folks addressed this, and between that and my own thoughts, I feel satisfied that I have learned something here.
I have to say, I did give some thought to limping, and here's why. If you'll notice on the hand history there was a player with about 700 chips left who had just lost a huge pot about two hands earlier(the hand history will not tell you that part). I considered that he might move in an attempt to pick up all that loose money allowing me to crush him. So I do see the value in that play from time to time, however I don't think it was the optimal play here by any means.
Thanks for the input.
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