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May 05,2009, 01:58 AM
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#1 | | Semi-Newb
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Was this bad?
PokerStars Game #27835106226: Tournament #161103594, $3.00+$0.40 Hold'em No Limit - Level VII (100/200) - 2009/05/05 1:48:39 ET
Table '161103594 1' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: JoeNutz77 (2170 in chips)
Seat 2: Quinner777 (1555 in chips)
Seat 3: Barbiiexx (1895 in chips)
Seat 4: kev20001 (2395 in chips)
Seat 5: claudioxcore (1490 in chips)
Seat 7: mikelava (2125 in chips)
Seat 8: Rex Tungsten (1870 in chips)
JoeNutz77: posts the ante 25
Quinner777: posts the ante 25
Barbiiexx: posts the ante 25
kev20001: posts the ante 25
claudioxcore: posts the ante 25
mikelava: posts the ante 25
Rex Tungsten: posts the ante 25
claudioxcore: posts small blind 100
mikelava: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Quinner777 [5s 5c]
Rex Tungsten: folds
JoeNutz77: folds
Quinner777: raises 1330 to 1530 and is all-in
Barbiiexx: folds
kev20001: calls 1530
claudioxcore: folds
mikelava: folds
*** FLOP *** [As 2c Ah]
*** TURN *** [As 2c Ah] [6s]
*** RIVER *** [As 2c Ah 6s] [Ts]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Quinner777: shows [5s 5c] (two pair, Aces and Fives)
kev20001: shows [Ac 8s] (three of a kind, Aces)
kev20001 collected 3535 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 3535 | Rake 0
Board [As 2c Ah 6s Ts]
Seat 1: JoeNutz77 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Quinner777 showed [5s 5c] and lost with two pair, Aces and Fives
Seat 3: Barbiiexx folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: kev20001 (button) showed [Ac 8s] and won (3535) with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 5: claudioxcore (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: mikelava (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 8: Rex Tungsten folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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May 05,2009, 02:03 AM
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#2 | | Administrator
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I don't really like it because there are too many people left behind you to act. Sure they guy made a retarded call with A8, but he could have sensed that the shove said you had a low pocket pair and didn't really want to play it and since he had you covered he decided he'd take those odds and gamble.
The proper play there I would assume is either a fold (I hate small pocket pairs), or a call hoping it doesn't get raised and try to set mine. Though, with the blinds at those levels I think that the fold is probably the right play.
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May 05,2009, 02:06 AM
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#3 | | Poker Wins = Potato Heads |
Blinds that high and that position I'd fold too. My question is how in blue bloody hell are there 8 people left at that level?! Was every hand folded to the bb all the way there or something equally crazy? Just seems ridiculously tight for a low limit sng.
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May 05,2009, 02:07 AM
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#4 | | Administrator
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Oh ya, one more thing. Any hand calling you here is either ahead, or a very slight dog. Do you really need to gamble in that spot?
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May 05,2009, 03:10 AM
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#5 | | comma man
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Originally Posted by Graham  I don't really like it because there are too many people left behind you to act. Sure they guy made a retarded call with A8, but he could have sensed that the shove said you had a low pocket pair and didn't really want to play it and since he had you covered he decided he'd take those odds and gamble.
The proper play there I would assume is either a fold (I hate small pocket pairs), or a call hoping it doesn't get raised and try to set mine. Though, with the blinds at those levels I think that the fold is probably the right play. | uh...you can't call to set mine with an M of 5 it is shove or fold
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May 05,2009, 03:13 AM
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#6 | | Semi-Newb
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Originally Posted by Cerberus Blinds that high and that position I'd fold too. My question is how in blue bloody hell are there 8 people left at that level?! Was every hand folded to the bb all the way there or something equally crazy? Just seems ridiculously tight for a low limit sng. |
Every once in awhile you get a table full of some decent players, or some really tight players.......or hell maybe everyone was just card dead. The guy that busted me was the biggest weak spot at the table however.
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May 05,2009, 03:16 AM
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#7 | | Semi-Newb
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Also question:
Button or Cutoff proper play Shove (assuming folded to me)?
Anywhere else...fold?
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May 05,2009, 08:51 AM
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I shove here all day long. Calling is an absolute no-no
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May 05,2009, 09:02 AM
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#9 | | Local Celebrity |
With 7BB it's shove or fold.
Easy shove.
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May 05,2009, 09:03 AM
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#10 | | Local Celebrity | Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham Oh ya, one more thing. Any hand calling you here is either ahead, or a very slight dog. Do you really need to gamble in that spot? | Yes, imo.
There is no play left with blinds the way they are. It is gamble time.
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May 05,2009, 09:10 AM
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#11 | | Tilting for 5 years!! |
Push and pray they hold
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May 05,2009, 09:38 AM
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#12 | | Local Celebrity | Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinner Every once in awhile you get a table full of some decent players, or some really tight players | Decent players exploit this. They are not part of it.
(All the more reason to shove here)
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May 05,2009, 09:52 AM
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#13 | | Run Good Wizard |
I shove or fold, however I am surprised that A8 calls for basically his tourney life. Unlucky spot.
A8 should be folding there.
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May 05,2009, 09:55 AM
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#14 | | Official Poker***** Troll
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Originally Posted by Graham I don't really like it because there are too many people left behind you to act. Sure they guy made a retarded call with A8, but he could have sensed that the shove said you had a low pocket pair and didn't really want to play it and since he had you covered he decided he'd take those odds and gamble.
The proper play there I would assume is either a fold (I hate small pocket pairs), or a call hoping it doesn't get raised and try to set mine. Though, with the blinds at those levels I think that the fold is probably the right play. |
This isn't a dream spot but I am not folding here.
Pros
- Your EP raise is likely to get a fair amount of respect
- blinds are coming soon!
- You may get people to fold 66, 77, 88, 99 or even TT.
- You add 20% to your stack
- You flip with any Ax that calls with the added bonus of all that dead money in the pot
Cons
- JJ+ will snap call you and you are crushed
You aren't out playing anyone with these stack sizes anyway. Get aggressive and gobble up those blinds and antes. You don't make money at SNG's by waiting for cards in the end game.
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May 05,2009, 09:57 AM
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#15 | | Semi-Newb
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Originally Posted by blackmagicz I shove or fold, however I am surprised that A8 calls for basically his tourney life. Unlucky spot.
A8 should be folding there. | As mentioned before he was definitely the weak spot at the table, just unlucky for me he had to have what was in his mind a "playable" hand.
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