$20 SNG (live game) with just forumers, so nobody at the table is a poor player. Three eliminations have left us with seven players left.
Blinds are gradual, 15 minutes and the next level will be 150/300, then 200/400, etc etc....
Blinds: 100/200
Stacks of relevant players:
Player A: $4500 --> Semi-loose aggressive player
Player B: $1200 --> Semi-loose, aggressive player
Player C: $6000 (about?) --> Tight, Aggressive player, but known to make moves
Action:
BB posted by player A, folded around to player B (cutoff)
Player B announces "Well, any Ace, and I'm going all in", looks, and pushes
Player C (button) ponders for a short while, and calls
Folded to Player A who looks down to see Ad10c
Okay, so you're player A, do you:
A) Fold
B) Call
C) Raise $xxx
D) Raise all-in
Please give me your reasoning behind your selection(s)....
Mark
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fold. no question. plenty of play left in the game. no reason to risk almost a third of your stack (minimum since player C can still raise post flop) at this stage with A 10. not to mention, you're in the worst position (ie acting first) the rest of the hand. personally, this fold would be no dilemma at all for me.
I fold. The reason I fold is because big stack should be pushing here if he wants to play the hand. The fact that he doesn't triggers my spidey sense that something weird is up, and that he's very strong.
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Now, the BB gets the feeling that he can get the button caller to fold his hand (which is what I originally wanted to convey with the hesitancy). The feeling is that the person is calling out of obligation to calling the short stack's all in push rather than wanting to call.
Mark
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I know who is who in this hand and Mark, you are not semi-loose or aggressive.
Easy fold, your only other option is shoving and against someone who's called that size of all-in (20% of his stack) can't see how it would be a good choice. You eluded that he is known to 'make moves' but he doesn't make that many and he can't be in this instance: he simply CALLED off 1200. He should be winning against a-10o.
You eluded that he is known to 'make moves' but he doesn't make that many and he can't be in this instance: he simply CALLED off 1200. He should be winning against a-10o.
Indeed. Calling here is definately not making a move unless he is trying to lure you into the pot while he is HUGE.
Even if you did shove here you have no fold equity against the big stack. You would be offering him $6750 for $3300. Less than 2-1 and he is priced in to a call.
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I was the button, and the concensus seems to be that I played this like crap and should have pushed. I'll reveal my hand and explain my play later (so as not to influence anybody's analysis). However, I think a few details from the OP are incorrect or missing:
blinds were 150/300 (all-in was exactly 4xBB)
I was closer to $7k in chips and tied for 2nd in chips
the SB in the hand was the big stack (over $10k) and a decent player (which I think is somewhat relevant)
the "hesitation" was simply the time it took to count the all-in and call (at least that's my biased recollection ).
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"So many losses with such a small bankroll against such weak opponents - it's like being beaten by a mob of toddlers" - Me (while learning ring games)
The more I think about this hand the more I think that pushing is the best option. If the button has anything better then A10 then he should be raising at this point. Why let the SB (who is decent) and the BB (who is also decent) come in for cheaper. The only thing I see here that he may be slow playing with and unable to get away from is KK and AA.
If he has AJ-AK, 77-JJ (QQ) he is raising. AA or KK (QQ), possible slow play hands. Very likely the BB has a hand closer to small pair, or any two painted. Possibly A9
If he has AA/KK, I'm beat and going home to fight another day. If I trust my read, which is that I think he'll release if I push, then I have an extra 1200 into the pot against a player that could really have any random two cards.
I think folding is the last thing you do here.
stp
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