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Old Sep 17,2010, 03:09 PM   #1
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Am I doing something wrong?

I play tight aggresive and after letting opponents suck out too many times I will now try to take the pot down after the flop or turn rather than trying to get in one more raise. However, lately my profits have gone down to nearly nothing. For example I will play for three to six hours and win only 15.00 and it only takes one bad beat (or read) to nullify my very slow and hard earned winnings. Last night I have pocket 77 and the flop comes 9 7 4 with two clubs and then the turn comes a meaningless 3 of spades so I raise the pot 3 times thinking I don't want anyone hitting their club flush draw. This guy raises and I think he has KK (or other big pair) and I got him with a set. We both go all in and he turns over pocket 56 wins with a double gapped str8!!!
Now all my profits are gone. I play for two more hours and don't lose anymore money but I didn't win either. How can I play for so many hours and not win anything? Am I too tight? should I play loose and bet more, but risk losing much more?
Any ideas out there?

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Old Sep 17,2010, 03:13 PM   #2
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IMO, stop playing only top ten hands and pairs. You don't win big pots with these hands, 56s yes.
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You may have unrealistic expectations of what winning is. For example, the very best cash game players win 6-8bb per 100 hands, that's it. That is not a huge margin at all.

Say you can play 1000 hands a night at .25/.50 - that would be an average of $60-$80 in profit per night. But that's an average of the very best players. You may be at 3-4bb per 100 hands, so only $30-$40 a night. That is an average, some nights will be better some will be worse, you will have huge swings either way.

A good STT player can make 20% ROI over a long period of time (and that may be high) so playing $5 SNGs, you would need to play over 100 (an hour each) to make $100.

There are players that can make money playing online poker but they know its the volume of play that makes them money, not one session or two but the tens of thousands of hands they can play a month.

You need to look at your results over a long period of time (10,000 plus hands) before you can come to a meaningful conclusion about your play.
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Old Sep 18,2010, 09:33 AM   #5
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I think you have unrealistic expectations. Playing ABC TAG poker isn't going to get you far. Making money isn't easy and no one is just going to give you money.
I'm playing limits pretty close to you. When someone re-raises you on the turn. You usually no good. Smaller set would of re-raised you preflop. Some players play loose, but few will bluff you with a weak hand. Always raising for value.
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