Kristy_Sea

That's a great answer Hobbes, Thank you!..but I'm still in the corner with the tree hugging hippies.

Were we taking the proactive route I've hoped for- the need for punishment would be lessened or (slips on rose-coloured glasses) non-existant?

Gun crime IS serious, but as always I resent the parental and reactive role of our legal system (a sentiment that WILL apply to most issues of legality for me.)

You out-class me, you toss around 'Bellum omnium contra omne'..and all I can think of is Kevin Smith quote (and out of context entirely-but I think in the general view of our legal system the idea applies)

"...destroys who we are, by inhibiting our actions, by inhibiting our decisions, out of, out of fear of some, some intangable parent figure who shakes a finger at us from 1000s of years
ago, and says, do it and I'll fucking spank you."

The current min sentences etc. are just another faulty 'deterrent' system.

I haven't even had a morning coffee yet- so incase what I've written so far falls under MDSguy's unintelligible list I'll summarize with:

If you want to stop gun crime- get rid of the guns, and/or educate the users. You can't 'punish' crimes that haven't happened.

esool

What "club" has the money on the tables, or is this just incorrect info?

AcidJoe

I would say this is incorrect info. But that's how she reported it. I have never seen money on the tables there.

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Kristy, why can't we all just get along?

haddon

I've seen money on tables for like 20 seconds max....

That's how she reported it, don't shoot the messenger.

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redoak181

I actually went to school and had a few classes with one of them. yikes,