Limit Texas Hold'em Quiz.

all_aces · Sep 06,2004, 09:07 PM

Hey guys,

I've been trying to teach some beginners how to play limit texas hold'em, so I wrote a quiz. Before I give it to them, I thought I'd give it to you, if you're interested in playing along. Some of the questions will be easy for you--remember, these are beginners--but I just wanted to see if I could get some sort of majority concensus on what is the 'most correct' play in certain situations. I've already written my answers, and I'll post them a little later. I may then change my answers based on what this poker community has to say.

Please feel free to briefly outline why you answered the way you did, and please feel free to kill some time at work by responding at all.

Assume it's a ten-handed typical game, and thanks for the help!

Regards,
all_aces

QUESTION ONE.

Let’s say it’s a $2/$4 game, and you are in MP with AhKc. The player to your immediate right just called pre-flop, and you raised. The button re-raised, and both you and the player to your right called. The flop came Ad Qd 4d. The player to your right checked, you bet to make anyone with a diamond pay for their draw, and both players called. The turn comes the 9d. The player to your right checks, you check, and the button bets. The player to your right now raises, making it $8 to you. What should you do?

QUESTION TWO.

You are in the BB with pocket eights. An early position player raises, and 3 players call. You call as well, because there are a number of people in the pot, and your big blind is already in, making it only $2 more to you. Five of you see a flop of: Ac 6d 8h. You act first, because the small blind folded preflop. What should you do: check or bet?

QUESTION THREE.

It is folded to you preflop, and you have KdQc. You are in late position, to the immediate right of the button. What should you do?

QUESTION FOUR.

You have pocket queens in middle position. Pre-flop, an early position player raises, and it is then folded to you. Should you re-raise, call, or fold?

QUESTION FIVE.

You have KcJc in LP. Three players just call before you, and you just call as well. The small blind calls, and the big blind checks, so six of you see this flop: Ac9c6h. The first player checks, and the second player bets. The third player calls. What should you do?

QUESTION SIX.

You have black kings in MP. One EP player calls pre-flop, you raise, and only the BB and the EP player call your raise. 3 of you see the flop: Ac9h7h. EP checks, you bet, the BB folds, and EP calls. The turn is the Qs. EP checks, and you bet again, to charge him for his flush draw if that’s what he has. He calls. The river is the 3c. EP checks. Should you check or bet?

QUESTION SEVEN.

You have 7s8s in the small blind. A couple of players call, a late position player raises, and you call, along with the other players. 5 of you see the flop: 2d 8h 6s. You are first to act, and you bet because you have top pair. One player calls, one folds, one raises, and then the late position player (who initially raised pre-flop) re-raises. Do you call, cap it, or fold?

QUESTION EIGHT.

You have AsQs in early position, and you raise pre-flop. One middle position player calls, as does one late postion player. Both blinds fold. Three of you see the flop: Ts4cJh. You check, the middle position player bets, and the late position player calls. Call, raise, or fold?

QUESTION NINE.

You have red pocket jacks in late position. 2 callers to you and you raise. The big blind calls, as do the two original callers. 4 of you see the flop of KsTdQs. The big blind bets, and everybody calls, including you. The turn is the As. The big blind checks, the next player bets, the next player raises, and now it’s up to you. Should you call, re-raise, or fold?

QUESTION TEN.

You have AhJh in MP. First player raises, one player calls, you call, and the button calls. 4 of you to the flop: 3hKh9h. The first player bets, and the second player raises. Do you call or re-raise?

QUESTION ELEVEN.

You have TcJc on the button. Five players call preflop, and you just call as well. The small blind completes his bet, and the big blind checks. 8 of you to the flop: Ah 9c Qc. One player bets, another raises, and another re-raises. It’s your decision. Should you call, fold, or cap the betting?

Big J · Sep 06,2004, 10:00 PM

1. Fold; you made them pay for the draw, the flush is on board now and you have a bet and a raise in front of you...your pair is beat.

2. Check and hope someone bets so you can get in a checkraise, either way come out betting at the turn.

3. Raise; but KQo is my lucky hand and I always raise with it

I think it is probabbly the right play in this situation though.

4. Call.

5. Call, don't want to get too much money invested before the flush fills in.

6. Bet, he should have already raised if he had an A

7. Fold I think, Top pair with a weak kicker just isn't the hand I am looking to play for 3 or 4 bets regardless of what limit we are playing.

8. Call.

9. Call, not going to raise into the flush, but you probabbly don't want to fold the nut straight either.

10. Call, don't want to scare anyone off just yet.

11. Cap..can't find a much better drawing hand then an open ended Straight Flush draw, might as well try and get as much money out of it as you can and the table clearly seems like they want to play.

Well thanks for killing a few minutes out of my boring worknight aces....did I pass?

all_aces · Sep 06,2004, 10:07 PM

Thanks very much for the reply Big J. I'll save my comments for a bit later, but I just wanted to point out that in Question 6, the flush didn't materialize. That may or may not change your answer, but just thought I'd throw that out there. As for whether or not you passed, man, everybody here will pass lol. You all know how to play! I will say that we had some different answers, but it doesn't mean anyone's 'wrong' or 'right'.

Cheers,
all_aces

Big J · Sep 06,2004, 10:21 PM

I did misread number 6, definite bet. Thanks for pointing that out.

alex_844 · Sep 06,2004, 10:45 PM

I like re-raising in 4 with the queens, there are alot of hands an early position raiser could have. If I get reraised again then i'm thinking AA or KK, otherwise i'm thinking I have the best of it. Then just call the reraise. I like the other answers that were given by Big J.

sinc · Sep 06,2004, 10:51 PM

QUESTION ONE.

Fold, I'd say there is no doubt that you are beat by at least a set or two pair from the button.

QUESTION TWO.

Check, I love to slowplay the sets. If you can slowplay the set properly it is where you make the big pots

QUESTION THREE.

It is folded to you preflop, and you have KdQc. You are in late position, to the immediate right of the button. What should you do?
Call, you have a good hand and you don't want everyone scared out of the hand.

QUESTION FOUR.

re-raise to put your opponent on his hand. If he comes back at you, you can reasonably guess he has a premium hand and its better to find that out pre-flop then at showdown

This assesment also changes depending on what kind of reads you have on the guy.

QUESTION FIVE.

I like to switch up how i bet draws to throw people off, but more often than not I'd call this, but I do like to switch it up.

QUESTION SIX.

I check, I'd say that EP player is as likely to be in with aces with a shit kicker, so id save myself some money here.

QUESTION SEVEN.

Sounds like an overpair or a guy who marries AK, so I call and proceed carefully. If I don't improve on the turn I'm probably out of the hand.

QUESTION EIGHT.

Id maybe see a turn card, but I'd really think about folding, the flop was a brick that will just suck you in for more money.

QUESTION NINE.

Call, I'm pretty sure you have the odds to chase the draw here.

QUESTION TEN.

I'd smooth call at least until the 4$ betting round. No reason to scare people out for the cheap bet. You run the risk of someone hitting a boat, but you just gotta pray to the poker gods :P

QUESTION ELEVEN.

I am not much of a draw better, so I'd probably just call everyones bets, hope my draw hits on the turn and get my raise in on the river.

HellmuthFan · Sep 06,2004, 11:03 PM

Very nice questions, they definitely racked my brain. Here were my answers...

1)Fold
2)Check
3)Raise
4)Re-Raise
5)Call
6)Check
7)Fold
8)Call
9)Call
10)Call
11)Re-Raise

Looking forward to your comments

Big J · Sep 06,2004, 11:05 PM

For the record, no one should ever follow my advice with regards to Pocket Q's, I have no idea how to play the stupid things and generally get my butt kicked everytime I get dealt them

all_aces · Sep 06,2004, 11:08 PM

Great replies so far guys... thanks very much, very helpful. What I'm finding most interesting are the hands where responses disagree with each other, and/or with mine. Sinc: On question one, I think you may have missed the fact that there's a four-flush on the board.

No biggie, I expect it doesn't change your decision (fold) but it probably changes your reason why. I really should have used the 'suit icons' available here, but they don't always load on some of the computers I use so I didn't want anyone else to have that problem, either.

Keep 'em coming!

Regards,
all_aces

all_aces · Sep 06,2004, 11:10 PM

That's four posts with smiley faces in a row! I like this forum because it's generally pretty positive, and most of the criticism is constructive. I guarantee you that if I'd posted this thread on RGP I'd have been called a moron three times by now, and there sure as hell wouldn't be any smileys!

Phred · Sep 06,2004, 11:13 PM

1-Fold
2-Check, then raise if anyone bets
3-Raise
4-Call
5-Raise
6-Check
7-Fold
8-Raise
9-Reraise
10-Reraise
11-Cap it

Big J · Sep 06,2004, 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all_aces

That's four posts with smiley faces in a row! I like this forum because it's generally pretty positive, and most of the criticism is constructive. I guarantee you that if I'd posted this thread on RGP I'd have been called a moron three times by now, and there sure as hell wouldn't be any smileys!

Ya this forum is generally a fairly upbeat and happy place to post and discuss poker, I'm glad I overheard Dave talking about it when I was playing with him at the Diamond Poker Classic. I hadn't had much luck before that finding a Canadian site to chat poker on. This thread also illustrates one of the things I love most about poker, there are frequently several different ways to play a hand, and they could all be the right play.

vinsanity · Sep 07,2004, 01:02 AM

#1
Fold, I think I'm beaten. Although I think I would've bet the turn

#2
Definetely bet it out. That flop's likely to hit someone with an ace so you'll get played back at and make it expensive for any straight draws.

#3
Raise, I think I have best hand and give the blinds a chance to fold

#4
Reraise, in low limit except for the rare player, i'm not giving early position player any extra respect. I think my queens are good and pump it to kick out some hands.

#5
Raise. I would only call if i was first to act after the bettor but since there's a caller already, you've almost got enough odds to be a +EV and you might get a free card on the turn. this would also depend on the read of the bettor and whether he would reraise

#6
Check. depends a lot on player read but its close. lots of players will call middle or bottom pair, however I check cuz if he's on a flush draw, he won't call you and he could have a ragged ace or even have caught 2 pr on the river. You've made him pay, just check it.

#7
Easy fold. Your hand is not that strong to begin with and you're facing a raise and a reraise with no draws.

#8
call, you've got 7.5 small bets pf plus 2 on the flop. A gutshot's about 10 to 1, you've got implied odds if you hit and you've got overcards and possible backdoor or you could even be ahead. Worth a call. i would probably have bet the flop to see where i stand.

#9
I fold, you're splitting the pot at best and you've got 2 of the jacks already. very likely you're up against a flush. the pot's 6 big bets and you're risking at least 3 bets including a river bet to win half or even a third of it. not worth it.

#10
Call and raise on the turn. hopefully the first bettor will come along.

#11
Cap the Mofo, your draw's such that you're the favorite. you'll only win half the time but that's good enough to build the pot up.

Good post All_Aces

Chugs · Sep 07,2004, 02:52 AM

QUESTION ONE - FOLD
QUESTION TWO - CHECK (TRAP, HOPEFULLY RE-RAISE ON THE TURN)
QUESTION THREE - RAISE
QUESTION FOUR - RE-RAISE (ISOLATE)
QUESTION FIVE - CALL
QUESTION SIX - BET (but personally check)
QUESTION SEVEN - FOLD
QUESTION EIGHT - CALL (9.5-1, gutshot and two over cards to the board)
QUESTION NINE - CALL (ughhh... damn 3 spades on the board)
QUESTION TEN - CALL (slowplay the nuts)
QUESTION ELEVEN - CALL (flush draw, straight draw, straight flush draw ... make it and then start pushing ... plus it keeps more players around for when you hit your draws)

MickeyHoldem · Sep 07,2004, 06:42 AM

1) Fold
2) Check
3) Raise
4) Re-raise
5) Raise
6) Check
7) Fold
8) Call
9) Call
10) Call
11) I just Call... (the only nut draw you have is the straight-flush)

Fine Print

Management reserves the right to change answers during live play (i.e. tonight)

P.S. I like the idea of teaching all your friends to play the same... makes reading them soooo much easier.

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