Realistically, it's a rule that is impossible to enforce which makes it a bad rule.
If you can't guarentee that it's one single physical player to one single virtual seat at the table, then any rule that attemps to enforce it is pointless.
Collary: You should anticipate that everyone sitting around the table against you in any online poker event are colluding.
Collary: You should never be playing online for amounts of money that are significant to you.
Well, that sort of brings up sort of another tricky area, basically that being if you are going to cheat in this way try to be less obvious about it.
I assume they could do some sort of IP type checks or something to be sure the same computer is not playing multiple entries (no idea, not my thing).
I think assuming every game features complete collusion would result in a ton of - EV decisions, kind of like when players change play to factor in how a site is "rigged."
In this case they could guarantee it. Not every criminal gets caught, but many do crimes in such a dumb way that it helps to at least be able to punish those that do get caught. Note, not saying he was a criminal in this situation, I do believe the original mistake was an accident.
A quick search of your user names on google turned up two other quick examples of you doing this. I couldn't be bothered to look for more, but I'm sure there are. Cheaters like you should be blacklisted from online poker and all funds confiscated.
I know these are the same person because he admitted it previously (read the whole thread)
One occurrence I could ALMOST believe, but 3 occurrences? (and that's just a quick search, I'm sure there are more) How do you do this at least three times without noticing? Not a good excuse, and I'm not buying it.
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I know these are the same person because he admitted it previously (read the whole thread)
One occurrence I could ALMOST believe, but 3 occurrences? (and that's just a quick search, I'm sure there are more) How do you do this at least three times without noticing? Not a good excuse, and I'm not buying it.
So you are able to keep every skin of every site straight when some sites may have 10 skins?
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Oh yes it is obvious. Which why there would be no point to denying it. ie. claim it was my wife etc. Totally accidental. Not something that has happened before. I didn't know what to do once it happened and unfortunately I did well enough in both for it to be noticed. I'm famous now for a bad reason. I'm not sure what anyone else would have done in the same situation.
From post #5, now that we've determined that it has happened before........
Ok thanks. I certainly don't recall it ever happening before but obviously it did. Playing multiple skins at once is a bad idea.
FYI - Pokerroom and Hollywood froze my accounts and took $9k. Good thing I made all that money multi-accounting $2 turbo shorthanded tourneys. I'm disappointed, but I did it to myself. Not much to do or say other than to just move on.
To my friends - you don't have to defend me. It's my fault. You can either decide I'm a cheater or an idiot. Either way I don't care.
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He also said it was obvious so why even do it in the 1st place.
I see you've been making the forum rounds though and think you were in the same tourney.
Seems to be your life's mission at the moment.
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What a tough couple of months for you online. Although you said it wasn't necessary, let me add my voice in support of you. I know that when I signed up for Chan Poker I had trouble with my user name. What I didn't realize was that it conflicted with a Pokerroom account I had set up a few years before.
It seems perfectly logical to me that you would not have noticed playing in the same tournament under multiple skins when there were hundreds of entrants. I can't believe the software doesn't stop multiple accounts from the same IP address.
I hope that you have some sort of appeal for the frozen accounts.
Sandy
P.S. If you were a cheater, you didn't do it very well. Using virtually the same name on the two skins would have been an idiotic way to intentionally cheat.
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Ok thanks. I certainly don't recall it ever happening before but obviously it did. Playing multiple skins at once is a bad idea.
FYI - Pokerroom and Hollywood froze my accounts and took $9k. Good thing I made all that money multi-accounting $2 turbo shorthanded tourneys. I'm disappointed, but I did it to myself. Not much to do or say other than to just move on.
To my friends - you don't have to defend me. It's my fault. You can either decide I'm a cheater or an idiot. Either way I don't care.
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Shitty deal though Moose and to the newbie (whose name I cannot recall, and couldn't be bothered to look up), what's with the righteous indignation? Save that shit for 13cards
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Ok thanks. I certainly don't recall it ever happening before but obviously it did. Playing multiple skins at once is a bad idea.
FYI - Pokerroom and Hollywood froze my accounts and took $9k. Good thing I made all that money multi-accounting $2 turbo shorthanded tourneys. I'm disappointed, but I did it to myself. Not much to do or say other than to just move on.
To my friends - you don't have to defend me. It's my fault. You can either decide I'm a cheater or an idiot. Either way I don't care.
Well played moose. You screwed up and took it, no excuses. Sucks that pokerroom and hollywood are out for you know, but i completely agree with them doing so.
You guys gotta kick that dangerous53 some slack. It was one of his buddies on the pokerroom forum that got affected by this, and like all he just wants to rid rooms of multi accounters. We know that moose did not intentionally cheat, but anybody outside this forum would not. In fact we would be saying the same things dangerous53 would be saying if the roles were reversed.
Hopefully ongame adds some kind of ip detection soon, hopefully though we can still play 2 skins at the same time. There are many sundays where i play hollywood and pokerroom at the same time as well, different tournies of course. I do know that for some reason I was unable to play Mansion (when it was ongame) and another ongame skin at the same time.
A quick search of your user names on google turned up two other quick examples of you doing this. I couldn't be bothered to look for more, but I'm sure there are. Cheaters like you should be blacklisted from online poker and all funds confiscated.
Btw I was at a complete loss with these ones since I don't usually play such low limits but it couldn't be wrong so I accepted it. It just made no sense to multi these ones, even accidently. But I finally remembered that my nephew came for a visit and wanted to play his uncle, so we bought into a couple low limit tourneys. So there you have it. Big evil Moose multi-accounting with his nephew to deprive low limit donks of their pocket change.
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Yes, because then you get people who think that the rule CAN be enforced and it causes stupidity like this thread.. Where people really believe that online poker is one person per hand/account/player at the table.
When it re-enforces a falsehood, it's a bad rule.
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