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Oct 20,2008, 12:42 PM
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#1 | | Yama
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| Poker math
Hi everyone,
I am thinking of buy a poker book in ragard with poker math.
WHATS THE BEST BOOK OUT THERE FOR MATH.
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Oct 20,2008, 01:07 PM
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#2 | | SHIP IT, BITCHES!
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ha ha ha 'the mathematics of poker' by chen and someone else
good luck slogging through that one without an advanced degree in game theory. i'm sure you can buy a used copy cheap from buddy...
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Oct 20,2008, 01:07 PM
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#3 | | #bonking
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Oct 20,2008, 01:23 PM
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#4 | | Cash games are evil!
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Originally Posted by pkrfce9  ha ha ha 'the mathematics of poker' by chen and someone else
good luck slogging through that one without an advanced degree in game theory. i'm sure you can buy a used copy cheap from buddy... | get it free through the 2+2 deal
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Oct 20,2008, 01:38 PM
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#5 | | SHIP IT, BITCHES!
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Originally Posted by pokerJAH get it free through the 2+2 deal | but then be sure you read it, jimmy. how many people have actually read it cover to cover? how many understood it? how many have started it?
i did a quick search on amazon.ca. (hint hint)
"killer poker by the numbers" looks promising, in spite of lousy that 'killer poker' series is. let me know if you read it.
some of the videos on those subscription sites are likely good candidates too. i seem to recall a series on deucescracked.com
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Oct 20,2008, 02:21 PM
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#6 | | Cash games are evil!
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Originally Posted by pkrfce9 but then be sure you read it, jimmy. how many people have actually read it cover to cover? how many understood it? how many have started it? | With all my favourite clubs getting busted these days, I might have some free reading time now. Although I am getting little bored of the cash game grind these days.
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Oct 20,2008, 02:30 PM
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#7 | | Wannabe a Xuan Liu!
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I do NOT recommend that book unless you are one of those "math geeks" with a university degree in Math / Comp Sci and love game theory.  Whenever I try to finish that book, I become very sleepy so we can do a book interlibrary loan at this weekend's rake-free satellite. When I finish pkrfce9's book, I want to borrow Moshman's new book or Kill Everyone.
If you understand and practice the math sections found in most poker books such as Harrington/Sklansky/Largay, you will have an edge over most "gut feeling" players who don't use math. Quote:
Originally Posted by pkrfce9 ha ha ha 'the mathematics of poker' by chen and someone else
good luck slogging through that one without an advanced degree in game theory. i'm sure you can buy a used copy cheap... |
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Oct 20,2008, 02:43 PM
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#8 | | SHIP IT, BITCHES!
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Originally Posted by BlondeFish When I finish pkrfce9's book | shhh... " tale of the donkey raper" hasn't been shipped to the stores yet
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Oct 21,2008, 01:31 AM
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#9 | | Yama
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I had sometime today decided to drop by CHAPTERS FOR BOOK.
I found about 12 books and decided to sit there and go through them all.
books include,
killer poker volume 1,2,
carl book of tells
harrington volum 1,2,3 (already own those ones. they are great book but for wpt,wsop events)
also run in to arnold snyder volum 2
and soo onnn
After 1.5 hour going though books i deicided to buy one ARNOLD SNYDER VOL 2, I ALREADY HAVE VOL 1....
THERE WERE SOME MATH BOOKS DIDNT LIKE THEM. SOO STILLLL LOOKING FOR GREAT MATH BOOK..
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Oct 21,2008, 02:43 AM
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#10 | | Wannabe a Xuan Liu!
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Originally Posted by The_Game arnold snyder volum 2 | I also have that book, so we can swap books if you want. His poker theories in volume 2 are wrong (Sklansky/Malmuth are correct), but just like his first book, the appendix alone in this book was highly +$EV for me. 
There is enough poker math to be mastered for most players in the following:
- Harrington on Hold'em, volume 1: Part Four, my epiphany on how to win at poker.
- Angel Largay's No-Limit Texas Hold'em: Chapter 2, Mathematics.
- David Sklansky's Small Stakes Hold'em: Part One, Some Poker-Specific Concepts.
Once you have internalized those math sections and still want to become a "math geek", Tony Guerrera's Killer Poker By The Numbers is what I would read.
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Oct 21,2008, 06:18 AM
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#11 | | Full PFC Member | Quote:
Originally Posted by BlondeFish Once you have internalized those math sections and still want to become a "math geek", Tony Guerrera's Killer Poker By The Numbers is what I would read. | I'm about 80 pages into this one right now and so far it seems ok. I'm no math major and there is a lot of math, but I find that by reading and reading and practicing the more complicated topics, I'm able to understand most of it. Whether I retain it and can apply it to my game, on the other hand, is yet to be seen.
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Oct 21,2008, 11:36 AM
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#12 | | Mr. Wonderful
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why don't you do a write up on here for everyone mr. +ev  , i would like to learn from you .
btw what is the skill factor and patient factor of double or nothing sit n go's  Quote:
Originally Posted by BlondeFish I do NOT recommend that book unless you are one of those "math geeks" with a university degree in Math / Comp Sci and love game theory. Whenever I try to finish that book, I become very sleepy so we can do a book interlibrary loan at this weekend's rake-free satellite. When I finish pkrfce9's book, I want to borrow Moshman's new book or Kill Everyone.
If you understand and practice the math sections found in most poker books such as Harrington/Sklansky/Largay, you will have an edge over most "gut feeling" players who don't use math. |
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Oct 21,2008, 11:50 AM
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#13 | | SHIP IT, BITCHES!
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Originally Posted by philliivey btw what is the skill factor and patient factor of double or nothing sit n go's | what you really want him to explain is the bubble factor.
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