You have a new PM! Click here here to read it!

Go Back   Poker Forum Canada > Poker Forum > General Poker Chat

General Poker Chat Discuss anything to do with poker right here. New members also feel free to introduce yourself here.



Register Now!
Like Tree7Likes

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old Jul 05,2005, 04:26 PM   #1
Full PFC Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 19
Are poker winnings taxable?

Hi guys,

New to the forum. I started playing online about 6 mths ago. My initial $500 bankroll slowly shrank until I got down to about $50. Although it was not a good time for me I did learn a lot from all that losing. Since then I have turned things around. After a period of breaking even, I started to slowly win some money! Over the last few months things have definately changed for the better. I now win pretty consistently. Playing 2/4 limit and $5/10 NL tourneys, I am now making some $$$. I have gotten my bankroll up to $2000 over the last two months. My question is this; If you win consistently at online poker, do you have to declare the winnings as income with Revenue Canada? I am making two to three hundred bucks a week as of late. Should I be worrying about the taxman?
StinkyFingers is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 05,2005, 04:36 PM   #2
PUNKYMISHA
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

!@$^(%%) the taxman. TIf online poker is not your primary source of income I wouldn't worry about it.
  Reply With Quote
Old Jul 05,2005, 04:47 PM   #3
Full PFC Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,251
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

Try a forum search for the word "tax" and you should find some useful threads.

ScottyZ
__________________
You've been training for this moment your entire life. The universe has been conspiring, if you think about it, to put you right here, right now.<br /><br />Off you go. We're all waiting on you.<br /><br />-from &quot;The Unit&quot; (episode written by David Mamet)
ScottyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 05,2005, 05:31 PM   #4
Full PFC Member
 
zero's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 508
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

I did read somewhere that its only taxable if its your main income. As long as you have another job that pays more you're fine.
zero is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 08,2005, 04:48 PM   #5
Full PFC Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Posts: 184
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

they won't come after ya if you're making $500 a year, they aren't going to notice. plus. i think their isn't tax for winnings in canada..thoughts?
__________________
[glow=red,2,300]STONESKN[/glow]
stoneskn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 12,2005, 10:32 AM   #6
Administrator
 
Graham's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto
Posts: 5,755
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

Quote:
Originally Posted by stoneskn
they won't come after ya if you're making $500 a year, they aren't going to notice. plus. i think their isn't tax for winnings in canada..thoughts?

there isn't. Unless you're silly enough to write "online poker player" as your profession. As of now, there are no 'off the top' taxes on any winnings in Canada. If you win $10,000,000 on lotto 6/49 the entire cheque goes into your account.
Graham is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 12,2005, 10:36 AM   #7
Full PFC Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,251
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

Quote:
If you win $10,000,000 on lotto 6/49 the entire cheque goes into your account.
True, since you are talking about lottery in this particular example, rather than another form of gambling.

Payouts from lottery specifically are singled out in the Income Tax Act as non-taxable capital gains. However, tax law for gambling winnings other than lottery is very much a grey area.

Quote:
As of now, there are no 'off the top' taxes on any winnings in Canada.
Putting the word "any" in there makes a huge difference, and it's not clear to me whether or not such a blanket statement is correct.

ScottyZ
__________________
You've been training for this moment your entire life. The universe has been conspiring, if you think about it, to put you right here, right now.<br /><br />Off you go. We're all waiting on you.<br /><br />-from &quot;The Unit&quot; (episode written by David Mamet)
ScottyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 12,2005, 01:16 PM   #8
Full PFC Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 28
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

A few years ago there was a guy, from the east coast if I remember correctly but I may be wrong, that was winning regularly on pro-line. It got to the point that he was winning so much they tried to tax his winnings, he fought it and I wish I could remember the outcome as it means there is a precedent, one way or the other.

The arguement, as far I see it is, unless they let you claim your losses they should ignore gambling winnings.
bigbadwoof is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 12,2005, 02:10 PM   #9
Full PFC Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Posts: 4,251
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

Here is a direct quote from a case in the Tax Court of Canada:

"Casual gambling gains are not a source of income under section 3 of the Income Tax Act."

http://www.canlii.org/ca/cas/tcc/2003/2003tcc707.html

Of course, here is another direct quote from the same case which makes me believe that direct quotes from such cases perhaps should not be taken as precise, truthful, and accurate legal statements.

"John Turmel introduced Mr. Epel to the game of Texas Holding poker and taught him how to play."



I found no relevant cases doing a CanLII search for "pro-line", "proline", or "sport select".

ScottyZ
__________________
You've been training for this moment your entire life. The universe has been conspiring, if you think about it, to put you right here, right now.<br /><br />Off you go. We're all waiting on you.<br /><br />-from &quot;The Unit&quot; (episode written by David Mamet)
ScottyZ is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jul 13,2005, 02:01 PM   #10
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 2
Re: Are poker winnings taxable?

Good Breakdown of Poker and taxes can be found here.

http://www.pokereh.com/legal/taxes.html
Redsz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 04,2012, 06:16 AM   #11
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by bigbadwoof View Post
A few years ago there was a guy, from the east coast if I remember correctly but I may be wrong, that was winning regularly on pro-line. It got to the point that he was winning so much they tried to tax his winnings, he fought it and I wish I could remember the outcome as it means there is a precedent, one way or the other.

The arguement, as far I see it is, unless they let you claim your losses they should ignore gambling winnings.
Youve said a lot of nothing in many words . Don't answer posts if you don't know wtf you're talking about.
RiverRat33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 04,2012, 06:22 AM   #12
Super Moderator
 
compuease's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Milton, poker capital of the world.. after Wloo that is.
Posts: 9,242

PFC Tournament Wins
Single Win Award Single Win Award 
Total Awards: 2

sick bump of 6 year old thread.
Cerberus and piggypie123 like this.
compuease is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 04,2012, 06:28 AM   #13
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 3
Quote:
Originally Posted by compuease View Post
sick bump of 6 year old thread.
please don't use the word "sick " ..be original...don't be a puppet and copy words from players you watch on tv just so you believe you're actually part of the professional crowd...it makes you look foolish
RiverRat33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 04,2012, 07:13 AM   #14
PFC Asshole and Commander
 
Hobbes's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: getting outrun by blind squirrels
Posts: 8,406
Welcome back fed
Cerberus likes this.
__________________
Hobbes
Playing micros is like getting a rectal exam from a leper who walks away with 9 fingers.
Hobbes is offline   Reply With Quote
Old Jan 04,2012, 07:26 AM   #15
#bonking
 
GTA Poker's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: South Bay, California
Posts: 5,938
Visit GTA Poker's Twitter
Quote:
Originally Posted by RiverRat33 View Post
Youve said a lot of nothing in many words . Don't answer posts if you don't know wtf you're talking about.
Please don't bump threads that have zero relevance to your game Or your life (exampli gratia: poker winnings, impeccable hygiene, wit). It is in poor form.

The management.
Cerberus and piggypie123 like this.
__________________
That level 5 trap really paid off...ship him the cookies.

Last edited by GTA Poker; Jan 04,2012 at 07:29 AM.
GTA Poker is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Tax law on poker winnings BlondeFish General Poker Chat 3 Mar 25,2010 08:56 PM
Are poker earnings taxable? northernlimit Brags, Beats & Variance 6 Apr 12,2007 02:05 AM
Winnings Taxable? westside8 General Poker Chat 10 Aug 14,2005 06:01 AM
poker winnings and the tax man lestat192 Online Poker Talk 13 Mar 17,2005 10:08 AM
Poker winnings and the Tax man Going Low General Poker Chat 2 May 10,2004 12:46 PM

 
Top Sites
Winner Poker

250% up to $2,000
Bonus Code: Canada
 
PokerStars

$600 FREE
Marketing Code: PSA8177
 
Party Poker

100% up to $500 FREE
Bonus Code: CANADA2012
 

Poker Stars



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:04 AM.

Poker Forum Canada offers bonuses for many online poker sites. Party Poker Bonus Code is the best Canadian poker bonus with  Titan Poker Bonus Code being the second best and last but not least is PokerStars Marketing Code. Clearing the full bonus on each site will add a total of $1,700 in bonus cash to your online bankroll.

Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2012, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.6.0 © 2011, Crawlability, Inc.