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Old Jan 20,2006, 11:44 AM   #1
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Tricky or Obvious?
I was involved in this hand the other day, wanting to know what you think the hole cards of each player is.Â* I'll give two CPF bucks to the winner, yes TWO WHOLE BUCKS!Â* Once we figure out what they are, I want to know if you think my play was tricky or obvious.Â*


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(15/30) - 2006/01/19 - 22:38:51 (ET)
Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: ghtry2 (1160 in chips)
Seat 2: BallardBoy (3305 in chips)
Seat 3: JFJB (3775 in chips)
Seat 4: Stoweski (1545 in chips)
Seat 5: Liu Bei (2285 in chips)
Seat 6: sippypowder (2205 in chips)
Seat 7: tripsix (1300 in chips)
Seat 8: stpboy77 (1350 in chips)
Seat 9: Xbanker05 (700 in chips)
Liu Bei: posts small blind 15
sippypowder: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stpboy77
tripsix: folds
stpboy77: calls 30
Xbanker05: folds
ghtry2: calls 30
BallardBoy: raises 90 to 120
JFJB: folds
Stoweski: folds
Liu Bei: folds
sippypowder: folds
stpboy77: raises 240 to 360
ghtry2: folds
BallardBoy: calls 240
*** FLOP *** [5s 6d 4h]
stpboy77: bets 960
BallardBoy: raises 960 to 1920
stpboy77: calls 30 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [5s 6d 4h] [7c]
*** RIVER *** [5s 6d 4h 7c] [2d]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2775 | Rake 0
Board [5s 6d 4h 7c 2d]

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Old Jan 20,2006, 11:52 AM   #2
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
I refuse to believe you'd re-raise with 66.

I put you on AA. Him on KK or QQ. Go with QQ.
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Old Jan 20,2006, 11:56 AM   #3
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
I hope you had AA/KK, because I should let you know this never works as a bluff online. I dunno what he had, a smaller pair most likely, maybe even a set though 99-JJ would be more "reasonable". I'll say KK and 77.
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Old Jan 20,2006, 11:58 AM   #4
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
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I refuse to believe you'd re-raise with 66.

Haha, you never know. A brilliantly played hand by me (rolling eyes).



Seat 1: mackayminer3 (8495 in chips)
Seat 2: Maverick938 (1710 in chips)
Seat 3: JFJB (3050 in chips)
Seat 4: Stoweski (7120 in chips)
Seat 5: Ldonnie (2870 in chips)
Seat 6: nemecheck (4695 in chips)
Seat 7: keystone35 (2185 in chips)
Seat 8: stpboy77 (9265 in chips)
Seat 9: schnoz (1440 in chips)
mackayminer3: posts the ante 25
Maverick938: posts the ante 25
JFJB: posts the ante 25
Stoweski: posts the ante 25
Ldonnie: posts the ante 25
nemecheck: posts the ante 25
keystone35: posts the ante 25
stpboy77: posts the ante 25
schnoz: posts the ante 25
JFJB: posts small blind 100
Stoweski: posts big blind 200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to stpboy77 [6h 6s]
Ldonnie: folds
nemecheck: calls 200
keystone35: folds
stpboy77: raises 600 to 800
schnoz: folds
mackayminer3: folds
Maverick938: folds
JFJB: folds
Stoweski: folds
nemecheck: calls 600
*** FLOP *** [8d 2s 9h]
nemecheck: bets 1675
JFJB said, "indeed they are nice"
stpboy77: raises 3725 to 5400
nemecheck: calls 2195 and is all-in
*** TURN *** [8d 2s 9h] [Kd]
*** RIVER *** [8d 2s 9h Kd] [8c]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
nemecheck: shows [Jd Js] (two pair, Jacks and Eights)
stpboy77: shows [6h 6s] (two pair, Eights and Sixes)
nemecheck collected 9865 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 9865 | Rake 0
Board [8d 2s 9h Kd 8c]
Seat 1: mackayminer3 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Maverick938 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: JFJB (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 4: Stoweski (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 5: Ldonnie folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: nemecheck showed [Jd Js] and won (9865) with two pair, Jacks and Eights
Seat 7: keystone35 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 8: stpboy77 showed [6h 6s] and lost with two pair, Eights and Sixes
Seat 9: schnoz folded before Flop (didn't bet)

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Old Jan 20,2006, 12:00 PM   #5
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
I'd say villian has pocket pair between 88 and QQ, so say 1010.

I don't think you have AA, you've commented a bunch about folding AK, so you either have KK/QQ, or you have baby garbage (22-66). Â*I'm thinking QQ.
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Old Jan 20,2006, 12:25 PM   #6
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
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Dealt to stpboy77
tripsix: folds
stpboy77: calls 30
Xbanker05: folds
ghtry2: calls 30
BallardBoy: raises 90 to 120
JFJB: folds
Stoweski: folds
Liu Bei: folds
sippypowder: folds
stpboy77: raises 240 to 360
ghtry2: folds
BallardBoy: calls 240
He's big stack, so you're trying to define his hand by re-raising, he only calls, so you suspect JJ-KK or AK
*** FLOP *** [5s 6d 4h]

Quote:
stpboy77: bets 960
BallardBoy: raises 960 to 1920
stpboy77: calls 30 and is all-in
his all-in screems overpair - suspect KK

IMHO, You limped, defined his hand, hit your trips and waited for him to pay you off...55
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Old Jan 20,2006, 01:10 PM   #7
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
Without looking at the other replies yet...

Stpboy = AA

Opponent = Some overpair to the board. Since the hand was interesting enough to post here, I'm guessing either KK or 88.

Now, I'll look at the rest.

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Old Jan 20,2006, 01:25 PM   #8
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
ok, the limp-reraise from EP indicates AA or KK... i'm gonna go with AA which seems to be the consensus. For the other guy i'm going to go with 88, yes your AA vs his 88.
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Old Jan 20,2006, 01:29 PM   #9
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
Without looking at the other answers

Limp reraise..screams monster? AA, KK, MAYBE QQ depending on your read for the table. He probably has middle pair 77-1010?
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Old Jan 20,2006, 01:31 PM   #10
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
Saying things like "I think he has anywhere between 22-AA, or any big A or suited connectors" isn't going to get you the two bucks people. Please be specific.

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Old Jan 20,2006, 01:46 PM   #11
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
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Saying things like "I think he has anywhere between 22-AA, or any big A or suited connectors" isn't going to get you the two bucks people.Â* Please be specific.Â*
I thought we got an extra $0.25 if we showed our work
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Old Jan 20,2006, 01:55 PM   #12
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
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Originally Posted by stpboy
Saying things like "I think he has anywhere between 22-AA, or any big A or suited connectors" isn't going to get you the two bucks people. Please be specific.

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Jeez stp, making my brain work during an off day. You limp-reraised with ducks, and hit trips on the river. He had QQ and starting bitching after you won the hand
Seriously though, I'm going go with KK vs 1010
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Old Jan 20,2006, 02:13 PM   #13
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
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Seriously though, I'm going go with KK vs 1010
stpboy77: shows [Kc Ks] (a pair of Kings)
BallardBoy: shows [Ts Th] (a pair of Tens)
stpboy77 collected 2775 from pot


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A $2.00 award has been credited to your CPF account.


The reason why I posted this, contrary to what Scotty thought, was because it wasn't very interesting. I actually found my play very standard and very obvious. It really showed how much people overvalue cards or undervalue the general play online. Agree?

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Old Jan 21,2006, 06:48 AM   #14
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Re: Tricky or Obvious?
this just gives me hope, there are worse players than me out there... even i can see that limp reraise = AA or KK...
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