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View Poll Results: What format would you want for the additional event?
Survivor (like Venetian, WPT Montreal, etc.) 2 8.70%
Shootout 4 17.39%
Rebuy (unlimited + add-on) 1 4.35%
High Roller (like $10K+) 3 13.04%
Pot Limit Omaha 10 43.48%
Bounty 3 13.04%
Other (specify) 0 0%
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Old Nov 11,2013, 10:00 PM   #1
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Thumbs up WPT Fallsview Poker Classic: Feb. 18-24, 2014

World Poker "Mother F***ing" Tour is back at Fallsview!

At the risk of getting trolled & insulted again, I will try to create this poker thread in a poker forum about what I have been told about the Fallsview Poker Classic 2014.
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The math geeks calculations are incorrect.
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Dude, just stay home and shut up about it.
Fallsview employees 13CARDS and jpajamas (and other poker posters) were permanently driven away from this forum by stoopid posts such as the above, so you will have to settle for my UNOFFICIAL and unconfirmed info (neither provided this info BTW). Note that I am not a professional reporter and do not have a "mole", so please confirm the information below before relying on it, and let me know of any corrections.

Date: Tuesday, February 18 to Monday, February 24, 2014.
Duration: 7 days, 1 more day than 2013.

$1,100, Feb. 18-19: $970 to player's prize pool + $30 (3%) undisclosed deduction + $100 fees; 11.8% total rake; 10,000 starting chips.

$2,500, Feb. 20-21: $2,231 + $69 gratuities + $200 fees; 10.8% rake; 20,000 starting chips.

$5,000 WPT Main Event (non-televised), Feb. 22-24: $4,559 + $141 gratuities + $300 fees; 8.8% rake; 30,000 starting chips, same structure as WPT Montreal

All the days of the three events start at noon. The final tables on Feb. 20, 22 and 24 will be at The Grand Hall, where spectators are welcome to the limited seating.

There are seats for 600 players then up to 50 alternates for a maximum of 650 for each event.
Event 1, $970 + $130 (more accurate than Fallsview's $1K+$100): 650 players * $970 = up to $630,500 prize pool.
Event 2, $2,231 + $269: 650 * $2,231 = up to $1,450,150.
Main Event, $4,559 + $441: 650 * $4,559 = up to $2,963,350 (includes U$15,400 WPT World Championship entry). Fallsview posted an estimate of $1,930,000, which is based on 420 players. This means a projection of just over $4 million in cash prizes.

Event payouts will probably follow WPT Standard Payout Schedule "B", which could be an improvement over Fallsview's previous extremely top-heavy payout structures.


Other Notes

- Tournament Director: Tino Trinci. Structures were improved by Matt Savage to be the same as WPT.
- Unlike most other tournaments, a person can buy multiple entries so scalping may happen again this year. Avoid buying a voucher from a stranger whom you haven't seen regularly at the casino as there were counterfeits before.
- The following types of entry fee payment are accepted: cash; VISA or MasterCard (both 2% fee); markers, front money, certified cheque, bank draft or entry voucher.
- Late registrants and alternates will be sold a full starting stack, possibly up to Level 9. This includes those who make Day 3 and want to play in the next event with the same starting time of noon. Hopefully, we will be allowed to multi-table!
- There will be no additional cash game tables during the WPT. Expect even longer waiting lists for the 17 tables.
- For registration or information, call 1-866-576-5375 (5-POKER-5; I hate it when companies just use letters without showing the numbers!)


Satellites
- Feb. 19, 3 PM super satellite for $2,500 event; $250+$25, 9.1% rake.
- Feb. 21, 3 PM super satellite for $5,000 event; $500+$50, 9.1% rake.

- Step A $1,100: $220+$25, 10.2% rake.
- Step B $2,500-A: $110+$15, 12% rake.
- Step C $2,500-B: $500+$50, 9.1% rake.
- Step D $5,000-A: $210+$25, 10.6% rake.
- Step E $5,000-B: $1,000+$50, 4.8% rake.
- Online satellites later at PartyPoker.


Hopefully, both WPT Fallsview and WPT Montreal will be around for many years. I will compare them so that both can keep improving.

For example, Fallsview should disclose that 3% of the prize pool will be withheld as staff gratuities. After I mentioned this to Playground Poker Club, they became among the minority of poker rooms that discloses it properly. Hopefully, Fallsview will include this info when it prints out the brochures and update its website.

Fallsview's rakes are lower than Playground's 11.8%. The cash game rake is even lower at Fallsview at $14/HOUR session fee vs. Playground's $14 max rake/HAND (excluding Bad Beat Jackpot rake).

Fallsview has no poker manager and is burdened by AGCO regulations, e.g., no electronic devices on the table. Playground is one of the best places in North America to play a tournament, with free wifi, can use electronics including playing online, comfortable chairs, massage, and pretty waittresses.
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Old Nov 11,2013, 10:08 PM   #2
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WPT Fallsview satellites

Hopefully, forumers such as PIRANHA will get enough interest to have some rake-free satellites.

Fallsview's raked turbo satellites
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Old Nov 12,2013, 04:54 AM   #3
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I like the dates, dont have to rush back from bahamas like in past years.

Will start hitting the satty's first week of dec.
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Old Nov 12,2013, 06:11 AM   #4
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A. Informative, constructive posts such as this one will not get any negative response from me. You and I have had great discussions on other topics.

B. Don't confuse rebuttal with trolling.

C. If you invite the trolling, it will come.

D. I would think a Bounty makes the most sense.
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Old Nov 12,2013, 02:57 PM   #5
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A. Informative, constructive posts such as this one will not get any negative response from me.
Since this is supposed to be a poker forum, expect a lot of both positive & negative feedback about ANY poker room, including YRPL, Sharks & Fallsview. Looking back at the negative reviews last year, I hope the players filled out a feedback form or sent something written to Fallsview so that it will have a chance to make some improvements this year.
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When someone buys into tournament, automatically assign them table and seat (this will stop scalping).

Pay Top 10% like most tournaments instead of Top 8%.

Start 10 handed but move to 9 handed tables (like most tournaments).

No need to have dealers wash and change decks every 30mins (this just slows things down).

Playing 3 hours of poker before you have a break is ridiculous.

They could have easily sat 500 players for the super satellites, but chose to only sit 400 (thus more scalping of the sold out $275 satellite).

The floor needs to stop talking down to us players like we are 4 years old when we ask questions (most poker players that are asking the questions have played all over the world, so the floor does not need to give a look like the player asking is an idiot).

When someone asks a floor person with 2 tables left, why are they so far apart from each other? It is hard to rail both tables, they answer that is not our concern. Umm us players and people railing are paying your salary.

In general Fallsview needs to start listening to the players which they have proven over the years they just don't care about the players.

The last thing Fallsview should want is the top Canadian women player saying they are not going to play the $5k and won't be back due to the floor attitude and power tripping security.
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Old Nov 12,2013, 05:17 PM   #6
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They should add turbo tournaments every night just so theres something else to do there when you bust
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Old Nov 12,2013, 05:47 PM   #7
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I've always liked the shoot-out idea. I hosted a small one with some pals. We had 5 tables of 4 players and it generated a lot of excitement and trash talk when drawing our seats and as people won their tables.

I know that wouldn't be the case in a casino environment but I'd love to see this forum throw one together someday.
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Old Nov 12,2013, 07:41 PM   #8
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They should add turbo tournaments every night just so theres something else to do there when you bust
THIS!!!

They have to pay the dealers anyway, and its not like theyre opening up more cash tables!
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Old Nov 13,2013, 07:23 PM   #9
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I have talked with some friends, and there is some interest in running home game satty to get into this. Location would probably be in Guelph, a friend of mine can accommodate three maybe four tables if enough demand. I have never organized a satellite to another event so any feed back would be great. I'm sure he would run rake free game. I believe there is a $2500 event, my thought was 25 players at $100 gets first into event. More players maybe help with expenses to and from or hotel. The other question would be whether to run this as equity or straight satellite. If any interest let me know.
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Old Nov 13,2013, 08:56 PM   #10
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I'm not going to impose any conditions on the equity percentage as it's a no-brainer that any rake-free satellite is better than driving to Fallsview to wait for a high-rake crapshoot. I'll try to play any RFS as long as it's not early Friday/Wednesday night.
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Old Nov 13,2013, 10:07 PM   #11
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With that many players, equity will be a pain to track, and it would have to be a significant cash to make it a meaningful payout with that many shares.

Also, I'd recommend a lower ratio than 1:25. I think you'd have trouble filling seats at that rate. 1:10 is pretty standard. So, I'd suggest either make it a $250 buy-in or make it a satty to the $1k.

Also, longer levels and deeper starting stack would be preferable to most players.
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Old Nov 15,2013, 03:07 AM   #12
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Except for catching a superbug from a player in the tournament area last year, i really am excited to go back and try this tourney again. Good thing they are getting sattys going early as possible, the more the better. I liked the structure of the $2500 seemed decent, obv prefer to win a seat though, also tried to get into the 5k last year no success...
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Old Nov 15,2013, 05:18 AM   #13
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Old Nov 23,2013, 11:22 PM   #14
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So when is the actual schedule going to be posted?
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So when is the actual schedule going to be posted?
Wondering the same...
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