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Old Nov 09,2011, 07:40 AM   #1
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GBH 2012 Tournaments - $200 or $500?

Seems like a lot of the GBH tournaments for 2012 are $200 +$20 buy-ins or is this a typo on the website? same starting stack of $5,000 chips.

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Old Nov 09,2011, 08:08 AM   #2
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I really doubt it is a typo.
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Old Nov 09,2011, 08:54 AM   #3
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Nope not a typo, trying to make the tournaments a little different.
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Old Nov 09,2011, 09:46 AM   #4
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Seems like a lot of the GBH tournaments for 2012 are $200 +$20 buy-ins or is this a typo on the website? same starting stack of $5,000 chips.

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You only get 5k chips in the $500 MTTs there?
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Old Nov 09,2011, 11:25 AM   #5
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You only get 5k chips in the $500 MTTs there?
Blinds start at 25/50 so 100bbto start and 30 min levels even for the $200. Structure looks decent, certainly for Ontario casino's.

How many bb to start in Alberta casino's?
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Old Nov 09,2011, 12:18 PM   #6
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Nope not a typo, trying to make the tournaments a little different.
although the prize pool will be a lot lower, I assume these will sell out a lot faster now given the price range. Can these be booked now online with the credit card? will the $200 tournaments qualify for the King of the Hill championship? Thanks.
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Old Nov 09,2011, 02:38 PM   #7
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You only get 5k chips in the $500 MTTs there?
Yeah this is what I was thinking too - 5000 starting stack and 30 minute levels is pretty good for a $200 but it seems kinda fast for a $500. In comparison Brantford's $500 is 10,000 starting stack with 40 minute levels.
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Yes these tournaments will qualify for the King of the Cards and the first four months are already online for sale. I will be opening the rest for sale by the end of the year.
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Blinds start at 25/50 so 100bbto start and 30 min levels even for the $200. Structure looks decent, certainly for Ontario casino's.

How many bb to start in Alberta casino's?
Ehrm. I don't play tournies, but I am fairly sure you are getting way bettter structures for your money out here. Better to ask T8. My best guess is that you are getting 10 to 20k with 30 to 40min levels for anything $300 plus. I think the $100s are 10k with 20min levels. Keep in mind that these are the nightly weekly or monthly games as far as I know. Not the king of the cards so there's that.
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Ehrm. I don't play tournies, but I am fairly sure you are getting way bettter structures for your money out here. Better to ask T8. My best guess is that you are getting 10 to 20k with 30 to 40min levels for anything $300 plus. U think the $100s are 10k with 20min levels. Keep in mind that these are the nightly weekly ir monthly games as far as I know. Noy the king of the cards so there's that.
Typically if you are getting 20K to start it would be 100/200 for the 1st blind level so it's equivalent. I went looking for the Edmonton structures but they don't seem to be posted. I just noted that you seem to slam Ontario every chance you get since leaving.. Not that I am defending Ontario casinos mind you but do want a fair comparison..
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Typically if you are getting 20K to start it would be 100/200 for the 1st blind level so it's equivalent. I went looking for the Edmonton structures but they don't seem to be posted. I just noted that you seem to slam Ontario every chance you get since leaving.. Not that I am defending Ontario casinos mind you but do want a fair comparison..
Well, the poker here is simply better. Ontario casinos are probably the worst I've seen for poker anywhere that I've lived or played a a regular basis.

Cash here 1/2 $500 max, 2/5 $1k max, 5/5 $2k max or uncapped. Regular tournies with acceptable or good structures (again, ask Wetts or T8) and it seems like frequent tournament series or deepstack tournaments.

The only thing better in Ontario is that you can depend on 5/5 and 5/10 action on a regular basis at one casino (Fallsview) but everyone knows the drawbacks of playing there unless things have changed a lot in the past 3 years, whereas here it is really hit and miss. Often times with good table selection you can find a 1/2 that plays close to 2/5 or better here.

Of course, I would rather have access to the games in LA, The Bay Area or Vegas on a nightly basis than either of the above locales. It's all relative.

One only has to play poker in Ontario casinos (again, circa 2008) to understand how terrible the rooms are by any reasonable standard.

I can't see how a 5k starting stack is ever a decent structure with typical 25/25 or 25/50 starting blind structures. I recall Wetts playing a 500 or 1k event at Fallsview and it having a horrid structure.

Below is the weekly/monthly schedule where I play. I'm fairly confident that all MTTs start at 25/25 or 25/50, but could be wrong. I also think that structures tend to be 20min for the low, 30min for the mid and 40 min for the higher BIs.

Personally, I don't care much at all...but if you don't make the idiots running the Ontario rooms realize how much better things are elsewhere they certainly will never, ever change. It's not like most of the donkament players will ever sit in a deep cash game anyhow.

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Old Nov 09,2011, 07:11 PM   #12
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Most people will agree the west has some pretty good structures, just look at comparable buyins for FPC and BCPC and Fallsview has more people in some and ends in half the time.

That said, Fallsview has some really recent reg fees, prob best I have seen for Canada.

The more chips/faster structures is true in some cases out here for sure.

Regina on the other hand still only gives 5k in a 500, but according to a few guys that play coast to coast, has about 9 extra levels you don't see elsewhere, takes about 16-17hrs for a single day event.

GBH seems to give a lot of play, from what I understand they start at 10am, and just hitting final now, so 8:30ish, prob a few more hours and max 110 players, that's about as good as it gets for single day events
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Old Nov 09,2011, 07:48 PM   #13
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As I speak for the GBH, our tournaments with 10,000 starting stack and 30 minute blinds. Runs us close to 1:00am for the finish even though we started at 10:00am. Now if we had a hotel like other casinos, a larger starting stack would work. As we would not have to run the tournament for 15 hours plus with nowhere for you guys to rest. It could run for 8 or 9 and then restart the next day with everyone fresh. Much like the casinos out west.

I do understand what you guys like and try to make things work better.
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Old Nov 09,2011, 08:26 PM   #14
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Thanks for keeping us updated. Btw, what's the story behind not being able to offer no limit cash games? Seems odd some offer nlh and others limit.
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Old Nov 09,2011, 08:46 PM   #15
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It is the fact that in Ontario there are two different classifications of casinos. There is commercial casinos that are aloud to run NL games and the there are the charity casinos like the GBH which can only have limit games. We do offer a spread limit game that has a max bet of $100. We can offer them at 1/2 or 2/5 blinds. The raises work like no limit but you can only raise by a minimum of the previous but up to $100.

Just so you know I believe it is wrong that they will not allow the charity casinos no limit, it is taking away half of our market. Do not get me wrong I am continuing the fight for it.

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